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KinAlberta
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# Posted: 6 Feb 2018 21:07 - Edited by: KinAlberta
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With the low wattage of led lights now it might make financial sense to put a couple lights on timers plus a small radio. Probably cheaper than an alarm system.

My problem in the winter is the lack of tracks on the uncleared snow, no smoke coming out of the chimney... it’s clearly vacant.

I think I need a couple signs saying:


“Have you spotted the hidden security cameras yet?” maybe with a “happy face” symbol on it to lighten it up. Creating some good natured doubt without just triggering a “Kiss my _ _ _, ___hole. I’m vandalizing your place too” response.

deercula
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# Posted: 6 Feb 2018 21:42
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Thieves these days are hiding their faces because they are aware of all the hidden cameras out there.

KinAlberta
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# Posted: 13 Feb 2018 19:31 - Edited by: KinAlberta
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Times are changing here...


Rural crime has communities taking matters into their own hands

Catherine Griwkowsky, Edmonton Journal, January 28, 2018

The days of waiting for the RCMP to be guardians and saviours are over in rural Alberta.

In Smoky Lake, Trevor Tychkowsky, president of the Alberta Provincial Rural Crime Watch Association, said more and more farmers are installing security systems and locking their doors.

“The days of having our places kept open and keys in vehicles, those days are done,” said Tychkowsky. “Criminals have come to figure that stuff out.”

As theft has steadily increased in Alberta, more and more security systems are being installed on rural properties, he added.

“That was unheard of before. It was pretty safe to have your toys and tractors with keys sitting right in them. Not anymore. That can’t happen,” said Tychkowsky.

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An Integrated Crime Reduction unit was formed to tackle repeat offenders. In one case in 2017, RCMP arrested three people police say were linked to 300 calls for service before they were finally nabbed.
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http://edmontonjournal.com/news/crime/rural-crime-has-communities-taking-matters-into -their-own-hands




Alberta RCMP changing tactics to address rural crime: commanding officer
By Sarah Kraus, Global News, December 26, 2017


It’s been called an epidemic and between the home invasions, robberies, ATM grabs, gas and dash’s and property thefts, rural Alberta had more than it’s share of crime in 2017.



" “There’s normally a small number of people that are responsible for a large portion of the crime that occurs within our respective communities,” Shean said. "




He said he is implementing an idea he’s used successfully in eastern Canada, right here in Alberta.

To start with, he’s investing more into the intelligence division.

“Be it property crime, and who’s impacting us there, or be it the more sophisticated organized crime that affects us here in the province, I really feel you can be innovative in how you attack crime, but first you need to understand it,” Shean said.

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“We’re already seeing short-term results, but it’s going to take a little longer.”

https://globalnews.ca/news/3926191/alberta-rcmp-changing-tactics-to-address-rural-cri me-commanding-officer/







What's growing in rural Alberta? Rural crime, say residents visiting legislature

Emma Graney, Edmonton Journal, November 27, 2017

Mabel Hamilton used to talk to her neighbours about the weather. Now, conversations are all about local crime.

Her Innisfail-area home has been robbed twice over the past year, and two trucks stolen. Her dogs were able to thwart another pair of attempted robberies, scaring off the culprits as they tried to break in.

Hamilton and her husband are ranchers. They’ve been home each time.

“To be that bold — that’s the part that amazes me. We’re in the barn and they’re trying to get into our house,” Hamilton said Monday.

She was one of more than 100 rural Albertans who descended on the legislature to raise their concerns about what Hamilton called “rampant” crime in their communities.

Allan Erickson was another. He and his wife live just outside Spruce View, around 50 km southwest of Red Deer.

Their home was robbed twice within three days this summer.

Like Hamilton, Erickson said the constant topic of conversation in the coffee shop and at work these days is crime — who was broken into, whose vehicle was stolen.

“We’re having a hard time understanding what’s being done about it. It’s just not working. It’s epidemic proportions,” Erickson said.

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http://edmontonjournal.com/news/politics/whats-growing-in-rural-alberta-rural-crime-s ay-residents-visiting-legislature



Jebediah
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# Posted: 15 Feb 2018 11:31
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I have two spypoint cellular trail cameras....they are the cats meow. I have them set on security mode so as soon as they take a pic it gets sent to my phone...If they move the camera an alert gets sent to my phone... if they steal the cameras it will send gps coordinates the next time they turn it on....The RCMP just caught two idiots trespassing on my property. They didn't break in but they were looking in windows and opened a shed door,where one camera was hidden...They were both charged with trespassing and public mischief and both were known to Police.

KinAlberta
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# Posted: 23 Feb 2018 11:01 - Edited by: KinAlberta
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Hmm



KIRO Radio 97.3 FM
@KIRORadio
Last night we captured surveillance footage of a vandal trying to break in to one of our employee's vehicles in our parking lot. While the suspect is still at large, we took the liberty to have John Curley give his play-by-play of the incident.
Feb 1, 2018

https://mobile.twitter.com/KIRORadio/status/959178992661221378/video/1



ChuckDynasty
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# Posted: 25 Feb 2018 14:52
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That's funny!

KinAlberta
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# Posted: 28 Feb 2018 22:24 - Edited by: KinAlberta
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Fake door idea:

I’ve toyed with the idea of screwing and gluing an old entrance door go the wall of our garage (with brickmold, threshold etc) and then hiding the real door (all when I get around to siding the old building).

Let the thieves bust off the lock and pry away until they wear themselves out.

hattie
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# Posted: 2 Mar 2018 13:40
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KinAlberta - That is HILARIOUS!!!
I like the idea of a fake door. Now that would be funny to get on a video camera too.

KinAlberta
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# Posted: 3 Mar 2018 11:43 - Edited by: KinAlberta
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Even better would be a door with a heavy spring or counterweight on the back.

It would open an inch or so but no more. Just enough to give them hope - and wear them down pulling and prying.

KinAlberta
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# Posted: 31 Mar 2018 18:05
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Airlock!!!!

Neat backup security lock idea for cabin / cottage outbuildings. On a shed or garage just hide a line and valve on the exterior. Could get fancy with just slight variations to this idea.


“ I use cheap little air cylinders (2" stroke) 1 top, 1 bottom, when the shop air goes flat, the door is bolted, when the air comes up the next morning, the bolts retract.

Simple ... just dont forget to drain your system every night “

http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/general/ideas-shop-rear-door-lock-222070/index2. html

KinAlberta
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# Posted: 31 Mar 2018 18:22 - Edited by: KinAlberta
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Another great idea (similar to door bars on brackets)


36-inch Outswing Door Security Door Bars, ESI-SB-01-0036 - Doorware.com

“There are TWO bars included. The LIFT-OFF BAR (Lift Up Bar - 38-3/4") for the inside of the doorjamb that locks the door in place, and DOOR BAR (33-3/4" length) that is thru-bolted to the door.

*Measure the door width - NOT the door frame width. Fits outswing doors 32" to 36" wide.

The LIFT-OFF BAR is up against / inside the door jamb, the DOOR BAR is thru-bolt fastened to the door. There is no way to get the door open or off from the outside once the LIFT-OFF BAR is put in place. Removing the door's hinge pins, hinges, or even the door knob will not matter. The door cannot be removed from the outside.“

http://www.doorware.com/site/product.cfm?id=181024

KinAlberta
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# Posted: 31 Mar 2018 21:39 - Edited by: KinAlberta
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Hmm. Just some tapping on the padlock did it.


Skip the picks, expert uses hammer to open a Master Lock | CSO Online

https://www.csoonline.com/article/3010200/physical-security/skip-the-picks-expert-use s-hammer-to-open-a-master-lock.html

Prepare4Tomorrow
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# Posted: 15 May 2018 10:26
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Thanks for the many suggestions for securing a remote, usually unoccupied, cabin. I use a garage door as my main entrance which opens to my porch area then to the main slider into the cabin. Windows are few but small with safety glass and are about 7 feet off the ground. I use inexpensive solar, motion-activated security lights on all 4 sides of the cabin. And I have setup Trail cameras for security as well as recording wildlife visitors. I do like the idea of an alarm but I am thinking pre-entry (perimeter) detection and alerting. My thinking is that if a person is frightened away by an alarm before they enter, I will have less loss and they will have less incentive. I just have to come up with the method but have seen this low-tech suggestion as a starting point: https://survivallife.com/diy-perimeter-alarm-for-home/
Still, if someone is persistent, nothing will stop them. Just making it more difficult and noisy as possible is all I can do when I'm not there.

KinAlberta
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# Posted: 16 May 2018 10:45
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If you go through your garage door, this is something to be aware of:

How Thieves Can Break Into Your Home by the Garage Door

https://www.corporatetravelsafety.com/safety-tips/how-thieves-break-into-homes-by-the -garage-door/

AK Seabee
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# Posted: 17 May 2018 00:07
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i will pass on the information about using the zip tie. Great ideal

KinAlberta
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# Posted: 6 May 2019 02:16
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How to Keep Your Cabin Secure from Intruders
by Rick Kesler | Feb 19, 2019

https://outdoortroop.com/how-to-keep-your-cabin-secure-from-intruders/

Brettny
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# Posted: 6 May 2019 08:56
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Quoting: deercula
Thieves these days are hiding their faces because they are aware of all the hidden cameras out there.

This is why you need a camera that will get licence plate numbers.

KinAlberta
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# Posted: 7 May 2019 01:50 - Edited by: KinAlberta
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I’d love to have a camera system but can’t justify the cost, especially the cost of a network connected system.

As an alternative I like the idea of fake cameras but they might just be a tip off that there is no alarm system so I’d also like to do things that just creates a whole lot of uncertainty in their minds.

Maybe a keypad somewhere. A short antenna coming off a box. Things that look like they may be cameras, like an in-wall lens that looks like a camera lens but that a visitor wouldn’t be able to get close enough to confirm.

Brettny
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# Posted: 7 May 2019 06:48
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Trail cameras are very mobile and cheap.

I have a network connected system at home and turn off all notifications, many false alarms.

justinbowser
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# Posted: 7 May 2019 20:43
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Quoting: Jebediah
I have two spypoint cellular trail cameras....they are the cats meow.


We have a Spypoint EVO and it's pretty decent I also have it set for security and it's great for peace of mind. I get a lot of extra pictures when the wind blows and the sun goes in and out of clouds but that's OK. So far in one month I've snagged a really fat 'Coon and a black cat!

Janemarie
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# Posted: 8 May 2019 23:34
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I am now six months into owning my cabin and I have it fully furnished and am making improvements all the time. All the things I have in my cabin I love, and I chose them for that reason (from junk stores, my stuff at home, family things that are funky, a few purchases) but none are valuable. I would be bummed if someone stole my wooden bread bowl or the dishes that I found at a junk store that look like my grandma's. But nothing would break the bank. I have an Amish family down the road and they have the key. I gave them a place to tie up their horse and put a bale of hay for her in my woodshed, and they come up from time to Tim and go for a walk. We often just leave it unlocked. My big fear is during hunting season, and I plan to post the heck out of the property. I have been told there is not a lot of respect out in these parts for asking permission to hunt on someone's land. My only fear about an alarm is that it would scare away wildlife for a good while.

KinAlberta
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# Posted: 10 May 2019 00:55 - Edited by: KinAlberta
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It’s the alarm stickers that do the job of keeping people out. If a thief ignores those, they will be prepared for an alarm to go off and will have anticipated response times, neighbour reactions, possibly cutting the power, etc. Also, I considered trail cams until I learned that a lot of thieves just steal those too.

That’s why I find the idea of faking security, hiding real security, hardening / burglar-proofing the property and even using bait so interesting. Faking it in such a way that they don’t know what the risks are.

Then if you have a real system keeping that hidden so that it can have a chance to actually work.

Liam
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# Posted: 17 May 2019 04:05
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Perhaps cruel to such people who are trying to do so, but for the thieves prepared a few surprises. Established a lock and assembled electrical system with spare batteries. If someone rushes into my house, he will receive a discharge of current in his legs, then my camera will turn on immediately, and I will receive an alert and I can see that bastard online and yell at him, plus I can send it to the police. I collected all this myself, because I have engineering experience.

KinAlberta
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# Posted: 17 May 2019 20:14
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Years ago we were camping when some kids on bikes from the local town were racing around the campground and it was too dark to see what they were up to.

That’s when I realized that one of those million candle power halogen lights would be handy. (However my old one was a waste of money.)

Plus if someone was clearly hostile it could maybe be of some help.

However that was when those lights were pretty much crap and the batteries would drain within minutes.

Any good powerful LEDs out there now?

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