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Anonymous
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# Posted: 27 Apr 2011 04:03
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ur idea is good. but we cant use one generator and motor together because the power produced by gen will utilized to run motor so y we can,t use 2 gen. and 1 motor. 1gen supplies to motor and other gives to external use
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Anonymous
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# Posted: 8 Jan 2012 08:01
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what about no car alternator. they require a specific spreed ration and a substantial motor to turn it fast enough and a lot of draw to overcome the load on the windings/magnets. But what about two motors, one being a DC motor with a much higher voltage than required to charge the battery. A dc motor IS a generator. It requires a blocking diode so it does not turn as a motor but allows the voltage being produced by it to go to your battery.
If on used that is say, 90 vdc, it would need to turn much slower to get to your needed 18 volt target to charge a 12v battery. Just a thought. There are a couple you tube videos of guys who have done similar things. I cant say they are completely self sustaining, but they can at least CUT energy dependency if not end it.
One guy rewired a generator head. He is only getting about 25% of the generator heads original rating, BUT he is powering a 120 v motor with it that then turns the gen head. He then runs a drill press and a grinder. No battery anywhere. He dose have to initially start the 120v ac motor with wall power, but I would think if a storage battery and an inverter were added to his system, that could be used for the initial start up.
Defy laws of physics, no. Make them more streamline. MAYBE One thing is for sure. nothing moves forward without someone trying!!
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Rifraf
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# Posted: 8 Jan 2012 10:20 - Edited by: Rifraf
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You cannot get more power than is put in, but using nature as a power source it can seem like you do.
Some options,
Use a stream or creek with heavy steady water and put a mill generator in it.
Lots of solar and wind generators,
If you are near a large coastline you can create a wave generator, basically a large tube with a one way fan/generator at the top, the pressure from the rising and dropping water level will continually spin the generator, ive read some very good result stories on these being used in large groups, the ocean is very powerful! Im not sure how "legal" it is to drop these anywhere you want though.
Simply using a clever gear ratio wont create energy from thin air.
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MtnDon
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# Posted: 8 Jan 2012 10:47
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If you believe this can be done I have a carburetor I'll sell you; 200 MPG in a Ford Excursion.
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bobrok
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# Posted: 8 Jan 2012 14:28
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I'll buy it!
SOLD!
where do I send my check?
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COTTONPICKER
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# Posted: 9 Jan 2012 09:25
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It never fails to amaze me how people continually buy into the idea of "PERPETUAL MOTION".
Friction, wind resistance & inertia all conspire untiringly to defeat this wonderful dream.
Even if perpetual motion could be achieved there would be little or no usable excess energy available to tap into.
If it were possible it would already be in effect World wide.
By the way, the Earth is NOT a big perpetual energy machine spinning on it's axis ad infinitum.
The rotation of the earth is GRADUALLY slowing down at all times.
Dream the American Dream fellows.
Respectfully,
Cotton Picker
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bobrok
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# Posted: 9 Jan 2012 17:09
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Quoting: COTTONPICKER It never fails to amaze me how people continually buy into the idea of "PERPETUAL MOTION".Friction, wind resistance & inertia all conspire untiringly to defeat this wonderful dream.Even if perpetual motion could be achieved there would be little or no usable excess energy available to tap into.If it were possible it would already be in effect World wide.
Ahhh, but you have never met my wife! ;)
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analogmanca
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# Posted: 15 Jan 2012 13:47 - Edited by: analogmanca
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Cotton picker is correct, Friction, wind resistance, inertia all contribute to load down the system.
I suggest for those wishing to persue over unity devices please start small, perhaps with a system not effected by those drawbacks.
A single solar panel directly feeding a light bulb, and that light bulbs light reflected back on the solar panel would be a good place to start.
Please use proper saftey precautions full welding leathers, and a welding mask just in case the positive feedback gets out of hand, and melts wires or the intensity of light becomes blinding, keep fire extinguishers handy. May the force be with you.....
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MtnDon
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# Posted: 15 Jan 2012 16:49 - Edited by: MtnDon
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Quoting: analogmanca A single solar panel directly feeding a light bulb, and that light bulbs light reflected back on the solar panel would be a good place to start.
I doubt that's going to go anywhere fast.
PV module efficiencies are still less than 20%.
There's still no free lunch.
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analogmanca
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# Posted: 15 Jan 2012 20:58 - Edited by: analogmanca
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MtnDon,
(shakes head) I dont know how you could think I was serious? I even advised wearing full protective gear, said may the force be with you....
agreed...there is no free lunch. I was hoping there was a sense of humour
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MtnDon
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# Posted: 15 Jan 2012 21:34
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Well, I guess I missed that. Sometimes I take things very literally. 
Sure wish we had built in smileys to indicate mood.
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Loren
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# Posted: 16 Jan 2012 06:08
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I was taught this in eighth grade science. Friction and inefficiencies will drain the battery. The conversation has been interesting but if its too good to be true it probably isn't.
Lofren
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