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Brettny
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# Posted: 1 Jul 2019 06:16
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I recently got our driveway in and am looking to secure it better than it is. Prety much im trying to make it hard for people to beable to drive right up and take things from our property. I do have cameras.

Do you have a gate, a cable, a chain or nothing?

My last hunting lease had a heavy forestry gate and the post was loose. This made it for a real pain to shut and even lock some times.

I am capable of making my own gate out of 1 1/2in pipe. I have a tube bender and weld.

FishHog
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# Posted: 1 Jul 2019 06:55
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I just went with a chain. Well flagged with reflective tape and a no trespassing sign. Only one thief cut my lock off so far.
Gate would be nice if you don’t get snow

CabinBuilder
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# Posted: 1 Jul 2019 12:23
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My humble gate:

Cabin Gate

Trying to blend in

Brettny
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# Posted: 1 Jul 2019 14:15
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It does blend it quite well. How to tou get the ferns to pop back up?

We do get snow but its on a un plowed road so not to much of an issue.

Jebediah
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# Posted: 1 Jul 2019 17:22 - Edited by: Jebediah
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This is how my gate is secured, requires some welding skills....I put nuts onto the lock so you can't use bolt cutters and if you can manage to get a grinder in there the wheel jams up on the nuts....Winter I just dip the lock 100% antifreeze and it will never freeze up....The lock goes through a hole drilled in the pin.
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Gate
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Gate 2
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creeky
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# Posted: 2 Jul 2019 08:54 - Edited by: creeky
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I have a two gate. Here's the first one under construction. I sort of slammed 'em together just before heading south for the winter.

Put cedar posts (8" roughly) into heavy clay soil. The one is solid. THe other moves a bit in the winter. But the gate still opens and closes. Mostly its the soil rising as it freezes catching the underside.

I really should get a pic of the entrance. Hmm.
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Brettny
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# Posted: 2 Jul 2019 09:33
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Wood is a no go for me. To easy to tear it down with just an ATV.

Nuts on the lock is genius! Thanks for the tip. I do like the lock box too.

Jebediah
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# Posted: 2 Jul 2019 09:47
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I used old telephone poles(cemented) and drove a piece of 3" pipe down the center of each post, just in case someone wants to get all high tech with a chainsaw lol....A truck with a plow tried to push the gate in one year ,scraped it up and but didn't move the posts....I thought the nut thingy was great too until my lock froze one year, that's how I know its impossible to get in there with bolt cutters or a grinder lol....I had to use a cutting torch....now I dip my locks in 100% glycol....best of luck with your project...

Brettny
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# Posted: 2 Jul 2019 12:19
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You can use a small propane torch to thaw locks too.

ICC
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# Posted: 2 Jul 2019 16:51
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I use steel tube gates I built myself. They look much like the ranch gates you can buy; 2 inch mild steel. The two most frequently used gates have solar electric openers. Because we do get some snow those operate by pivoting the gate upwards in an arc, much the same as the swing up arms you find on public parking garages, but a whole gate, not just an arm. The pivot post end is set in concrete, lots of it while at the other end the gate sets down in between two HD steel posts set in a concrete lump. Some places around here use a power-operated sliding gate that is also pretty good in the snow.

toyota_mdt_tech
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# Posted: 3 Jul 2019 08:23
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I use the metal 5 rail galvanized gates you see on farms. I have 2 at 16 feet and one at 12 feet.

creeky
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# Posted: 3 Jul 2019 11:22
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The lock on my gate is a piece of wood held in place by screws. Usually two screws. Sometimes only one.

naturelover66
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# Posted: 3 Jul 2019 16:13
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My driveway has 2 -8 foot galvanized farm gates with a chain.

Whiskey Jack
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# Posted: 20 Oct 2019 22:39
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I've never quite understood gates. They advertise when a property is vacant and any of them can be dismantled very easily.

Sprinkler Guy
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# Posted: 21 Oct 2019 06:28
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Quoting: Whiskey Jack

I've never quite understood gates. They advertise when a property is vacant and any of them can be dismantled very easily.


I struggled with that way of thinking myself, but when I started seeing tire tracks I decided I would put in gates.
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sparky30_06
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# Posted: 21 Oct 2019 08:20
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Quoting: Whiskey Jack
I've never quite understood gates. They advertise when a property is vacant and any of them can be dismantled very easily.

my gates are always closed and locked, even when I'm there

FishHog
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# Posted: 21 Oct 2019 08:23
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Quoting: Whiskey Jack
I've never quite understood gates. They advertise when a property is vacant and any of them can be dismantled very easily.


Just like locked doors, they do little to keep determined thieves away, but they do keep away the casual thief who is more a product of opportunity if they find a place with no one around.

sparky30_06
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# Posted: 21 Oct 2019 09:26
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Quoting: FishHog
Just like locked doors, they do little to keep determined thieves away, but they do keep away the casual thief who is more a product of opportunity if they find a place with no one around.

locks only keep honest thieves out, but once you cross a locked gate you are now trespassing and, if your state has a castle law, it is now in effect.

It's hard to argue a trespass when they drive or walk up an open, unlocked access road.

paulz
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# Posted: 21 Oct 2019 10:45
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Brettny
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# Posted: 22 Oct 2019 08:27
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I gues i should update this thread. We used a cable at first but about a month ago we put two 10ft farm gates in. Im not going to post a picture for security purposes.

Our gates are closed if we are there or not. Every trip i try to make a cehicle seen behind the closed gates for a few hours.

Our neighbors have no cable, no gate and you can see there cabin from the road. As long as im not making my self the easy pray im happy.

KinAlberta
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# Posted: 25 Oct 2019 11:30 - Edited by: KinAlberta
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Do not buy these!

We have two farm gates.
Angle iron with f’ing woven mesh welded on to them.

Have painted them twice in the last 15-20 years. The last time a month ago. Prep and painting takes 10 times more work than one would expect.

They had been painted when we bought them and after a few years the paint was all flaking so we thought just a quick paint job would be nice. Hours of work later... then again this year!

KelVarnsen
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# Posted: 25 Oct 2019 11:38
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Not really relate to the structure of the gate but the locking of the gate. My cabin is on a shared private road and locks have always been a nightmare, but we installed a new Tayhope multilock system and it's been great. Really easy to use. Probably not very secure, but better than the old daisy chain of locks that someone cutoff and threw away.
Multi-Lock System
Multi-Lock System


KinAlberta
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# Posted: 25 Oct 2019 11:52 - Edited by: KinAlberta
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Now THAT is interesting.

Sorry, but that does look like it creates a weakest-link problem. For instance that long thin shackle lock on the left. Maybe tie a bag of nuts to the gate for owners to use.

Also, you can sure tell who had the good stuff. Or the worst insurance.

We have our keyed padlock and then a really cheap wordlock combo. I interlink them so either works but it seems others have a harder time with the concept.


So I still always carry the key to it too.


As far as open or close, I’m trying to take a random approach to it. Sometimes leave the gates open, sometimes closed when I’m there. Sometimes closed and locked when I’m there. If I leave to go into town or somewhere I also treat it randomly.

Also last fall after the first couple light snowfalls I drove back and forth about 10 times on the short road in so it looked like it was frequented way more often than it really was.

KelVarnsen
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# Posted: 25 Oct 2019 12:39
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Quoting: KinAlberta
Sorry, but that does look like it creates a weakest-link problem.


The gate really only keeps the unmotivated riff-raff out but I feel like it's better than nothing. The nice thing about this setup is that if they cut one lock off they can get in, but we all don't lose our locks like the daisy-chain approach. It took 6 months of having the gate unlocked to coordinate getting this new setup.

KinAlberta
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# Posted: 25 Oct 2019 13:19 - Edited by: KinAlberta
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These look nice but I’m not too clear (no pun intended) on how the installations pictured work. Maybe land mines or tank traps hidden on either side? Or keeps skateboarders and wheelchairs out?


Agricultural Security Gates – Paddock Fencing

https://www.paddockfencing.com/agricultural-security-gates/


Now here’s a gate:
https://gnp.photoshelter.com/gallery-image/Security/G00007wPxLIWk6nE/I0000__M5aiyfB_o



Checking out some of the other photos. Saw this one too:

https://gnp.photoshelter.com/gallery-image/Security/G00007wPxLIWk6nE/I0000TGQgV5292Vc


Gallery with more pics:
https://gnp.photoshelter.com/gallery/Security/G00007wPxLIWk6nE/

ICC
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# Posted: 25 Oct 2019 15:07 - Edited by: ICC
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The USFS has some gate lock enclosures that make it impossible to cut a lock with anything short of an acetylene torch. Easier to cut the gate metal than the lock and they usually use heavy wall rectangular or square steel tubing for the gate itself. They can be a PITA if one has to travel through frequently.

Here's a link to one of the gates on a ranch road here in NM. It is instructions on how to use the gate. I use the same thing on gates around my property. This is NOT me, but they are neighbors.

And here's a similar lock enclosure but without some of the intricacy in the one in the link. The steel box only lets you reach up with the key, insert and unlock, then remove the lock and then pull the large pin. The pin size discourages most from trying to cut it. I have a couple like that too.



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