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paulz
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# Posted: 6 Oct 2019 19:06
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I have some odd logs and rounds. Some are too long for the stove and need to be halved, some are rounds with a Y. I usually just hold them down with one foot on a piece of plywood. Somehow I've escaped injury. I'm thinking of making a wood box, sorta like a miter box, and stake it to the ground, to hold the wood while being chainsawed.
Anyone tried such a thing?
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darz5150
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# Posted: 6 Oct 2019 20:10 - Edited by: darz5150
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I made this out of 3/4 inch black pipe for doing what you need.
Its a cant hook with a removeable jack foot for lifting logs off the ground for bucking down to size.
You can get a cheap one off amazon for about $50 bucks.
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ICC
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# Posted: 6 Oct 2019 21:07
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I saw a guy once who had drilled and installed a pivot bolt through the front end of the chainsaw bar. Then a cord and pair of pulleys arrangement with a weight that acted a counterweight to keep the motorhead end raised. He'd place a round against the stop plate, squeeze the throttle and push the motohead down. Voila! Release the throttle and let the saw rise. Sort of a chain saw, chop saw.
I hope that bunch of words makes an understandable word picture as I have no photos. 
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paulz
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# Posted: 7 Oct 2019 20:57
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Ha, that's a great idea if you have a lot of cuts. Darz's setup looks good for occasional use.
Thanks guys.
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old243
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# Posted: 7 Oct 2019 22:58
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how are you splitting the Y rounds. if using a splitter . Cut across normally at the Y . You might end up with a short block , But won't be as apt to kick back or roll. Then split them normally. old 243
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darz5150
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# Posted: 8 Oct 2019 00:11
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Paulz
Here's a couple other ideas. I built one like the first pic out of old pallet wood. The only difference is the one I built, I put planks on the top for sliding smaller limbs.
The second pic. I just found on the net. Looks like it would be easy to build and super portable.
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darz5150
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# Posted: 8 Oct 2019 00:36 - Edited by: darz5150
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Quoting: paulz Darz's setup looks good for occasional use.
You got that right my friend. It seems like every occasion I need to use a chainsaw. I bring this along. Lol. Which is frequently. I can't tell you how many chainsaw chains and bars this thing has saved me. The tooth I put on the long bar can be used to pry bigger logs/trees apart, if you didn't get your wedges in soon enough, and pinch your bar.
Not to mention trips to the chiropractor. 😱 The only wood you have to pick up, is the bucked to size logs.
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Brettny
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# Posted: 8 Oct 2019 11:11
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I have been bucking up wood for many years. I have yet to feel the need for a wood holding gadget. Learn to use yoursaw properly and you can cut wood and not the dirt.
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darz5150
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# Posted: 8 Oct 2019 11:53
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Lol. Brettny.
There are 2 chances that youve never pinched a saw or hit the dirt. Slim and None.
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NorthRick
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# Posted: 8 Oct 2019 16:34
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Quoting: Brettny Learn to use yoursaw properly and you can cut wood and not the dirt.
And in the meantime, you get to learn how to sharpen a chain!
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ICC
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# Posted: 8 Oct 2019 19:21
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The dirt also plays havoc with front sprocket (in the bar) wear and can even cause chain link wear, make chains stretch more. If you saw close to the dirt you pretty much can't avoid getting into it. If you are lucky your ground has a lot of "duff" on top.... leaves, needles, etc that isn't real dirt.
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snobdds
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# Posted: 8 Oct 2019 22:02
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I've never used any buck in the woods. I just have pine, long and straight. I just cut 3/4 of the way through, roll 90* and finish the cut.
If I'm at my little log processing area, I'll use my mini ex to hold it up...but that's cheating.
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Brettny
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# Posted: 9 Oct 2019 07:24
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Bingo Snobdds knows how to do it. Cut a bit more than half way and roll the log over. I do hold logs up with my mini ex to but i think this is beyond this crowd. You could also prop up one side of the log on another log. Im sure someone is going to say "you will pinch your bar"..this goes back to knowing how to properly use a chainsaw.
Yes i have hit dirt and yes i know how to sharpen my chain. Its all about bar control and knowing where your bar tip is even though you cant see it.
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darz5150
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# Posted: 9 Oct 2019 23:59
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Quoting: Brettny . I have yet to feel the need for a wood holding gadget
Quoting: Brettny I do hold logs up with my mini ex
That explains why you don't need gadgets like mine. ðŸ‘
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Brettny
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# Posted: 10 Oct 2019 08:15
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Darz. I just bought the machine last year. Been sawing wood for many years before. You can justify tour gadgets any way you want but you cant justify inexperience.
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paulz
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# Posted: 10 Oct 2019 09:30
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I don't see anything wrong with getting the wood off the ground where it can be safely held and cut without all the bending over of working in the dirt.
Lots and lots of jigs, homemade and commercial, on a google search.
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darz5150
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# Posted: 10 Oct 2019 09:32
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Well. I was giving you the thumbs up on the mini. 😎
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Nobadays
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# Posted: 10 Oct 2019 10:28
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I've been heating with/cutting wood for over 40 years and was a log home builder in my younger days, so I would kind of consider myself an experienced chainsaw operator. I cut up wood on the ground the same as mentioned here, 1/2 -3/4 through then roll and finish the cut. Yet just the other day when clearing downed logs from the property for firewood, the saw dropped through a log (rot on the underside) and BAM I'm in the dirt.... and rocks. Rocked the chain pretty good....
.......IT HAPPENS
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mj1angier
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# Posted: 11 Oct 2019 15:57
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Like most things, unless you do it the way I do it, you must be doing it wrong, lol
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Aklogcabin
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# Posted: 12 Oct 2019 10:51
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Or use the equipment or tools I use. You must be doing it wrong.
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silverwaterlady
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# Posted: 13 Oct 2019 12:18
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https://images.app.goo.gl/aU8osYh3Why49yG48
We bought one of these on Amazon for 125.00.
One hour from hospital and on blood thinners. Not going to take chances with homemade stuff.
We also took a class on the use of a tourniquet. Purchased one. Just in case.
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creeky
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# Posted: 14 Oct 2019 13:56
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Quoting: snobdds I'll use my mini ex to hold it up...but that's cheating
thumbs up on that too. I use my tractor forks.
happy canadian thanksgiving all.
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ICC
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# Posted: 14 Oct 2019 14:39 - Edited by: ICC
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Quoting: creeky happy canadian thanksgiving all.
In the US it is Columbus day, tho here in NM it is Indigenous People's Day. C.C. never did the people who were here first any favours. (Canadian spelling on 'favors' in honor of CDN Thanksgiving😉)
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paulz
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# Posted: 26 Dec 2019 17:25
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Finally got around to making the pallet jig. Oh man, this works so well I may have to make one out of nicer pallets! Besides getting the wood up where ypu don't have to bend over, you can buzz right through full bore and just hit the pallet wood below.
Thanks Darz5150!
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darz5150
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# Posted: 26 Dec 2019 18:53
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Bingo! My friend!ðŸ‘
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Brettny
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# Posted: 27 Dec 2019 08:07
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Jigs like this make you lift the logs one extra time. This is why any saw that I'm bucking firewood with has at least a 20in bar, for reach.
If it's small enough to lift onto that jig then it's small enough to kick upon to the rest of the logs and cut.
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paulz
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# Posted: 1 Oct 2021 11:20
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Quoting: darz5150 Bingo! My friend!ðŸ‘
Hey Darz, been bucking the trees I cleared off my hillside for defensible space, all small stuff but added up to a pretty good pile. After cutting some on the wood pile, holding it with my foot, using the saw dogs, flipping it over to finish cut, I pulled out the pallet jig. Made a video to show a friend. Love it!
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6rxDwh4v65k
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darz5150
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# Posted: 2 Oct 2021 09:42
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Hey Paulz. Glad to hear it's helping you out! It really does make it safer and easier cutting up the smaller wood. ðŸ‘
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gcrank1
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# Posted: 2 Oct 2021 10:40
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I 'inherited' a homemade cant hook as Darz showed from the fam estate sale; works a treat! My 'bender over and lifter' dont work so good anymore so I appreciate the elegance of letting the leverage do the heavy part.
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rpe
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# Posted: 2 Oct 2021 11:55
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For processing smaller logs, a buddy showed me his 2-man method for bush-bucking. Cut stump in a 'V' to support log. One guy runs the saw, bucking the overhanging log to desired length, the other guy advances the log by shoving it forward on the stump. Cut...shove...cut...shove. Makes fast work of smaller limbs that can be wrestled safely by the helper.
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