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paulz
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# Posted: 21 Oct 2020 17:28
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Bought some tire studs for my golf cart. No instructions, anyone put these in before?
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lburners
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# Posted: 21 Oct 2020 18:35
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I haven't put them in but had my first pair of studded tires last winter. Night and day difference in snow driving. Allowed my 2wd rwd van to be usable in snow storms.
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paulz
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# Posted: 21 Oct 2020 20:04
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Upon further study, it appears you need a special gun, and tires with stud holes already. Oh well, 10 bucks down the drain. Maybe they'll fit in my pellet gun.
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toyota_mdt_tech
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# Posted: 21 Oct 2020 20:45 - Edited by: toyota_mdt_tech
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I used to have a special air gun, but never used it, got it with the sale of a bunch of shop equipment, but the tires need to be made for it, you don't just shoot them into the rubber, there is a pocket for it to go in.
If you need traction, get the ice screws used for ice racing motorcycles.
Ice Screws
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paulz
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# Posted: 21 Oct 2020 22:15
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Thanks TMT. Yeah that's what I should have gotten.
Getting 50 tons of road base next week anyhow, might not need them this winter.
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ICC
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# Posted: 21 Oct 2020 22:24
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Right, the tires should be molded with the stud holes. FYI, tires that do have the factory stud holes should not have studs installed if the tires have ever been driven on. That is because there may be small stones or other debris in the holes. There are 6 different lengths of auto tire studs too.
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Brettny
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# Posted: 22 Oct 2020 07:00
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For a golf cart I would buy the screw in ones for offroad use.
https://www.amazon.com/Kold-Kutter-Snowmobile-Traction-Screws/dp/B008N6AQXO/ref=sr_1_ 11?dchild=1&keywords=Tire+studs&qid=1603364315&sr=8-11
I have a set of tires with ice studs for one of my quads. I have never had so much traction in my life even being on a lake.
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WILL1E
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# Posted: 22 Oct 2020 08:00
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Could you make use of those studs by tubing your tires and then drill holes in the tires and using a threaded insert on the inside of the tire for the studs to screw into?
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toyota_mdt_tech
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# Posted: 22 Oct 2020 08:02 - Edited by: toyota_mdt_tech
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Quoting: paulz Thanks TMT. Yeah that's what I should have gotten. Getting 50 tons of road base next week anyhow, might not need them this winter.
A set of good fitting chains will make that thing like a tank.
chains for mowers etc
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toyota_mdt_tech
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# Posted: 22 Oct 2020 08:04
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Quoting: Brettny I have never had so much traction in my life even being on a lake.
Kinda takes some of the fun out of it, doesnt it? 
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Brettny
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# Posted: 22 Oct 2020 08:31
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Lol no it adds a whole other level of fun. After about 3min I figured out I could drive around on just the right or left wheels like I was riding a bike.
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paulz
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# Posted: 22 Oct 2020 10:27
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I do run chains on it normally, as the driveway to my cabin is steep and slippery, won't go up it without them, not to mention the ride down. They tend to roll off the tires in turns and wrap around the axle, no matter how tight I get them, which is a major pain in the butt. I think the tires being round in tread profile doesn't help. This thing was a freebie, I normally use my yard truck but it is a handy backup. Now that my shop at the bottom of the driveway is functional I'm 'commuting' a half dozen times a day to the cabin.
I was cleaning my shed the other day and came across another pair of rims and tires off another old cart, so the stud idea popped into my head. Those tires are square profile though, the chains might stay on better. Or might try the screw in studs.
I have another long range plan for getting up to the cabin, involving this yellow rope, but that's another subject.. 
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Popeye
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# Posted: 22 Oct 2020 10:43
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Have you tried deflating the tires prior to putting the chains on, then reinflating afterwards?
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Nobadays
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# Posted: 22 Oct 2020 10:44
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Hey... another freebie, why not look for a set of bigger/taller quad type tires and rims for it? I've seen some pretty cool looking jacked up golf carts!
LIKE THIS
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paulz
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# Posted: 22 Oct 2020 11:22
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Yes I deflate the tires before putting the chains on.
And yeah, I have looked at different tires, but I doubt I can go larger in diameter. The cart has a belt driven variable ratio drive, takes full throttle to climb the hill. A second rider, over 200lbs. like me, usually has to hop out half way up. Raising the gearing might make it worse.
Thanks for all the replies.
Here's my usual 'UTV'. Also a freebie.
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jbirdmotox
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# Posted: 22 Oct 2020 17:01
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We use these for building dirt bike tires but they carry studs for all kinds of applications. Even shoes...
https://www.gripstuds.com/Car.php
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Nobadays
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# Posted: 23 Oct 2020 09:00
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Are you dealing with an icy driveway or is it muddy? Studs are great on ice but virtually useless in mud... the chains are way better in mud.
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paulz
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# Posted: 23 Oct 2020 09:24
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I'm dealing with mud. Yeah I can see how chains are much better in mud. But as I mentioned, I'm getting 50 tons of road base delivered next week, some of which will go on the hill.
I was also thinking I could bolt a couple of flat bars to the outside of the chains so they can't roll off to the inside.
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Aklogcabin
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# Posted: 23 Oct 2020 11:23
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Paul’s, I use a ratchet strap on my backhoe tires. I had some slip but added another strap. Wrap them through several spot around the chain rails. The chains keep mud from balling up in the tires. Just a little flexing. For studs fat short hex head screws in atvs n snogo tracks. You could put the screw-in snogo studs in your atv tires. Up to metal roofing screws with the washers removed.
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paulz
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# Posted: 23 Oct 2020 11:50
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Hey, great idea Ak! I have chains on my oldest tractor (1959!) because I'm too cheap to buy tires. They work great but one comes off occasionally. Got lots of ratchet straps though! You can bet I'll be adding them to both it and the golf cart. Also thought about roof screws but as Nobadays says, they probably aren't worth much in mud like chains.
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Aklogcabin
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# Posted: 24 Oct 2020 11:14
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Hey paulz I have a 1959 case 420b backhoe. The chains are needed even with the weight of the hoe. Mud or snow. Along with a few other oldies. Hey I just called myself an oldie.
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paulz
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# Posted: 24 Oct 2020 12:07 - Edited by: paulz
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Cool. Yeah I have gotten my backhoe stuck more times than I care to remember. Gotten good at crab walking it.
Something to be said for old stuff if you have mechanical skills. Simple. I helped a neighbor fix his newish tractor a few months ago, mouse got under the dash. Had a wiring harness like a new car. Switches, sensors, relays.. I can count the wires on mine with one hand.
My '59 came to me in an odd way. Buddy called and said the local water dept. was updating and auctioning off a loader/backhoe (1974) and the '59 loader/scraper He wanted that, I wanted the backhoe. We both won, 3k for the backhoe and 1k for the '59. Well he got cold feet when it came to picking them up so I grabbed it too. Glad I did, the loader is handier without a backhoe attached and the box scraper gets a frequent workout.
A few years later a guy down the road passed away, they gave me the crawler/dozer. 1976 I think. Hadn't run in years, took awhile to get the diesel fired up but it's done a ton of work for me.
They'll all get a workout next week when my road base arrives.
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