Small Cabin

Small Cabin Forum
 - Forums - Register/Sign Up - Reply - Search - Statistics -

Small Cabin Forum / General Forum / Valve before pressure tank
Author Message
Type6ix
Member
# Posted: 20 Dec 2020 12:52
Reply 


My pressure tank is located under my Adirondack trailer.
In the winter, I only visit when the temperature goes above freezing during the day. I fill buckets of water from my yard hydrant then drain the pressure tank.

I was planning to add a curb stop between the yard hydrant and the pressure tank to get water. I realize that I would have to keep the hydrant open in order to prevent a dead head.

However, is it possible to just add a valve in the poly pipe where it emerges from the ground and before it reaches the tank?

The pipe is nearly vertical at that point and should drain underground.

If this would work it would be much cheaper.

Any thoughts?

Alaskajohn
Member
# Posted: 20 Dec 2020 13:08
Reply 


I put in a bypass valve where the water comes into my cellar from the well before the pressure tank for this very purpose. It works great.

Type6ix
Member
# Posted: 20 Dec 2020 14:09
Reply 


OK, but yours is below the frost line in the cellar.

Will the water before the valve be able to drain underground?

I think it should since I have a yard hydrant.

Irrigation Guy
Member
# Posted: 20 Dec 2020 15:25
Reply 


How would the water drain back if you put a valve in the basement?

Type6ix
Member
# Posted: 20 Dec 2020 15:52
Reply 


It doesn't have to drain in the basement because it is below the front line.

My question is if I put a valve in the pipe between where it exits the ground and the water tank, will the water before the valve eventually migrate below ground when I shut off the submersible well pump.

I just want to be able to fill buckets of water from my yard hydrant in the winter without the water making it to my pressure tank.

Irrigation Guy
Member
# Posted: 20 Dec 2020 16:12 - Edited by: Irrigation Guy
Reply 


It might, but if it’s full where would it go? I suppose if it was pumping against a closed valve near the tank it would compress the air when the pump was running then push it back out the hydrant when you shut it off but hard to say for sure. I would say the curb stop would be better if you can remember to not dead head the pump. I put a 1/4” valve just below the pitiless adapter with a rod that I can access under the well cap. You could also pop the pitiless up to drain the lateral back into the well.

**Edit**
To clarify the 1/4” valve is on a tee off of the drop pipe which when opened drains the entire system back into the well

Type6ix
Member
# Posted: 20 Dec 2020 17:34
Reply 


I really want a Bison hand pump but they are so expensive.

Irrigation Guy
Member
# Posted: 20 Dec 2020 17:36
Reply 


How deep to water are you?

Type6ix
Member
# Posted: 20 Dec 2020 18:55
Reply 


I think 80 feet

Irrigation Guy
Member
# Posted: 20 Dec 2020 19:38
Reply 


I built a pvc hand pump with a few check valves and O rings for about $100 after getting a quote for a Bison or Simple pump.

Type6ix
Member
# Posted: 20 Dec 2020 20:05
Reply 


That's awesome. Good for you.
I was thinking there had to be another way.

Irrigation Guy
Member
# Posted: 20 Dec 2020 20:13
Reply 


Check out videos on you tube you will find it.

gcrank1
Member
# Posted: 20 Dec 2020 23:12
Reply 


I was considering the pvc hand pump until I discovered my 2 1/2"driven well pipe takes a curve about 20' down (my water is about 26' and Id have to go at least another 6' past static water level?). The way I envision those working they need a pretty straight drop, right?

Irrigation Guy
Member
# Posted: 21 Dec 2020 07:58
Reply 


Quoting: gcrank1
I was considering the pvc hand pump until I discovered my 2 1/2"driven well pipe takes a curve about 20' down (my water is about 26' and Id have to go at least another 6' past static water level?). The way I envision those working they need a pretty straight drop, right?


I used 1.25” pvc and if it is a little bend it might work. Have you tried a pitcher pump? At 25’ static you are right on the cusp of a pitcher pump working.

Your reply
Bold Style  Italic Style  Underlined Style  Thumbnail Image Link  Large Image Link  URL Link           :) ;) :-( :confused: More smilies...

» Username  » Password 
Only registered users can post here. Please enter your login/password details before posting a message, or register here first.