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WILL1E
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# Posted: 13 Jul 2021 08:38
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As some of you may know, i have a small "seasonal pond" on my property. This water doesn't move anywhere, it's created from run off, etc. So needless to say it isn't the cleanest water, however it isn't to the point where there's algae floating on it or anything like that.

I have some extra non-food grade IBC totes sitting around and i'd like to fill them with water from this pond to use for things like rinsing off the ATV's, tractor, camper, etc. I'm not looking to get showroom clean, just rinse things off.

1. What's the most economical way pump wise to get the water from the pond into an IBC?

I currently have this 12V transfer pump I use for getting fresh water from a food grade IBC into the camper and I also have this 120V transfer pump i use at home for emptying the pool in the fall. Would either of those work?

2. How can i keep debris from getting sucked in from the pond? I don't want to go buy $$$ fancy hoses, so i prefer to use a garden hose. So is there something i can attach to the end of the hose to help with that? I assume i need to float the hose on the surface but keep the end from touching bottom. I've got an old boat buoy that should work for that.

3. If i put a garden hose connector onto the IBC outlet like i've done on my fresh water tank, what kind of pump could i get to put some pressure so i can use it like a pressurized garden hose at home? I don't think using either of those pumps I have would like it when I have a spray nozzle on it and i'm not spraying causing back pressure. Right? I could drag my gas pressure washer up north, but that seems overkill.

Steve_S
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# Posted: 13 Jul 2021 09:35
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I'd use the 120V pump. Use a hose and get a screen end for it.

I'd suggest making a bucket trap though, a 5 gal plastic bucket with holes around the perimeter about 4" from the top. Zippy tie the hose so the end is at the bottom (not all the way), drop it in the water so ONLY the holes are submerged, not the top of the bucket. This will keep sediments & debris from getting into the buck and subsequently into the holding tank. I would strongly suggest covering the holes with "Window screen mesh" with 2 part-epoxy glueing it to the buck to prevent smaller stuff from entry. A Neighbour down the road does very similar, he built a small "raft" with the bucket in the center so it never gets to the bottom and it always works a treat leaving about 6" in the bottom and it's really easy to manipulate it to the centre of his pond, which is 30' diameter or so and something like 10' deep (eyeball guess).

Solving the Stagnation before it happens. Like a Fish tank and airstones to keep the water Oxygenated something similar can be done with a pond... You can pump air to the bottom and let it work like that, also helps keep it ice-free (most times) in winter pending where you are. The most common solution is a Fountain of some sort which accomplishes the same as an airstone system. It minimizes scum and algae (which can be quite toxic btw).

paulz
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# Posted: 13 Jul 2021 09:59
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I use one of these to move standing water around my property, using a genny for power. Garden hose screws on and it can sit right in the dirt. My well is also big enough that I've stuck it down there 45' and it pumped water no problem. Had it probably 10 years now, been indestructible.

Never reused the water so haven't done any filtering.
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Brettny
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# Posted: 13 Jul 2021 10:55
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Why even store the water in a tote if you can just pump it directly from the pond? How far is the camper away? I see that is the hardest thing to move even though they all have wheels.

WILL1E
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# Posted: 13 Jul 2021 11:03
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paulz you don't have to worry about dirt getting into those or anything like that?

Brettny I have IBC's sitting around as i just use the cage part for firewood storage. So i figured i'd make use of them. Secondly, i want to keep it simple if the wife or son want to rinse something off. The more like home i make it, the easier it is for them to use or want to use it. Lastly, since the pond is seasonal, i'll never how long it'll be there. It's already dropped probably 4-5' since i bought the property last fall.

paulz
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# Posted: 13 Jul 2021 11:46
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Quoting: WILL1E
paulz you don't have to worry about dirt getting into those or anything like that?


Nope. I used to (back when we had rain on the west coast) stick it right in the mud puddles on my driveway and pump them dry. And my well had 50 years of soot build up at the bottom, I pumped black water for hours getting that out. If the water got too muddy it would slow down, I'd just pick it up, shake it a bit and put it back down.

lburners
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# Posted: 13 Jul 2021 20:29
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If you are using IBC totes without the cage it has the possibility of bulging out and cracking. Just a heads.

WILL1E
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# Posted: 14 Jul 2021 08:12
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Thanks for the heads up lburners. They're sitting around doing nothing right now so if i end up destroying i'm not concerned as i can't think of any other use for the plastic part.

jsahara24
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# Posted: 14 Jul 2021 08:39
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Quoting: lburners
If you are using IBC totes without the cage it has the possibility of bulging out and cracking. Just a heads.


Good advice....I've seen them fail without the metal cages, I'd recommend not filling them up completely....

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