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gcrank1
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# Posted: 1 Aug 2022 22:08
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We just had an Old Hickory Buildings pre-built shed delivered.
The double doors have a typical inexpensive locking T-Handle (like many garage doors have). I imagine it isnt hard to overcome the assembly.....
Im thinking of adding a heavy duty hasp and quality Padlock.
Any suggestions?
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darz5150
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# Posted: 1 Aug 2022 22:24 - Edited by: darz5150
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If you are concerned about someone breaking in and stealing stuff.
I myself would put on a $2 dollar lock. And put a $30 trail cam hidden inside or outside. That way they won't tear the crap out of your shed while breaking in. And you might still have proof of who broke in.
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ICC
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# Posted: 1 Aug 2022 22:34
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If somebody wanted to breakin, would they be able to work at it without much, or sny, concern about being seen? The chances of anyone seeing or hearing an in progree burglary at my cabin are virtually zero. Better chance that you will win the big lottery.
So for the past 25 years or so my approach had been to have minimal impediment. Normal locksets, no extra long screws or armored locks. Just enough to keep the honest but curious out. That way the physical damage is less if someone breaks in, but there is clear evidence of burglary.
Back in the late 90's, after trying to force the steel framed door and battering the hell out of it the burglar paused, broke into the garage, found a chain saw and sawed a hole in the cabin wall. Then he took his time going through stuff and loading what he liked into his truck and made off with a load. Fortunately he was not up to date on his license tags. A deputy noticed his tag was out of date and pulled the guy over. One thing led to another, the truck bed full of assorted loot, and he was arrested.
It may have played out the same if the door had been easier to crack. And maybe the same ending, except the door would likely have been easier to fix and there would have been no hole in the wall to repair.
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gcrank1
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# Posted: 2 Aug 2022 09:40
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Yep, secluded.
A cordless recip saw and maybe crowbar would make short work of it; if they ignored the windows.....
The price of a quality hasp and p-lock equals a decent trail-cam.
Years back in the mc shop we would periodically have someone show up to get their saddlebags repaired or replaced. Many had kept Empty s-bags locked! But one guy had his unlocked latches busted. Seems the thief didnt even check to see if they were locked, just busted em anyway to find out nothing worth stealing inside.
Guess for starters a couple 'Smile, Yer On Camera' signs will be of more value than locks. And pics of the inside will the goods to show the insurance company once emptied out 
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Brettny
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# Posted: 2 Aug 2022 09:47
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I have a big lock and hasp on my shed. But in reality someone's prob not going to want to walk up the hill. Keep a good gate locked and make walking around it a pain. I keep brush and logs in the way. Another entrance in is completely blocked by dug out stumps. I also lock up any wheeled cart that can help someone move any of my belongings down to the road.
I also have a few trail cameras. They dont have to be expensive. The $25 tasco ones at walmart will last nearly 1yr on Energizer lithium batteries for me.
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paulz
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# Posted: 2 Aug 2022 10:21 - Edited by: paulz
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I'm also in the trail cam and signs camp, my sheds aren't locked. A lithium angle grinder will cut through any lock or hasp in no time. The only thing I padlock is my gate, hopefully being on the main road would discourage tampering. But once inside out of view you could make all the noise you want.
If you want to protect power tools etc., dig a hole, put a trap door in the floor and keep the shovels and crap on top.
I've wondered, not researched it, about the impact the proliferation of cameras have on thieves these days. While murder and mayhem seem to be on the rise, home breakins, at least around here, seem to be on the decline.
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KinAlberta
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# Posted: 5 Aug 2022 22:17
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Do trailcams photos ever help?
I’d guess they’d just show some unidentifiable guy(s) wearing hoodies walking away with your stuff.
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ICC
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# Posted: 5 Aug 2022 22:34
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I know of one case locally, in which the photo was clear enough to see the person very clearly and that person was known to the sheriff's department.
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darz5150
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# Posted: 6 Aug 2022 00:55 - Edited by: darz5150
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Quoting: KinAlberta Do trailcams photos ever help? I’d guess they’d just show some unidentifiable guy(s) wearing hoodies walking away with your stuff.
Quoting: ICC I know of one case locally, in which the photo was clear enough to see the person very clearly and that person was known to the sheriff's department.
Think about it. You pay for insurance, probably with a $1000 deductible. Plus your monthly premium. Probably most of us have never made a claim.
I would be willing to bet, that almost all of us have enough crap, every day items, and probably tools laying around, that would be more than enough to break into our cabins/sheds etc.
The key to me is alarms, motion detectors, and a crapload of cameras. Lots and lots of them. Real ones, fake ones, smart ones yadda yadda. Plus a lot of security signs and no trespassing.
I had some in bird houses. I have some sacrificial ones, all over the place. I still have one that runs off a lantern battery and 110 film cartridge.
You can get a discount on your insurance policy a lot of times, if you have good security.
Next time you drive to your property. Think like a criminal.
Last note. Put cameras that can catch a license plate or vehicle on the easiest way in/out. Security is as good or cheap as you choose. It's your stuff. You decide.
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Brettny
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# Posted: 6 Aug 2022 06:28
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Quoting: KinAlberta Do trailcams photos ever help? I’d guess they’d just show some unidentifiable guy(s) wearing hoodies walking away with your stuff.
There better than nothing. You have to remember that alot of small towns have usualy suspects and now with the power of facebook you can put someone's face out to alot of people.
On my home camera system I can read licence plates.
Darnz..I think someone could steal $1000 worth of items but they would have to take almost a whole sed full of stuff.
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gcrank1
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# Posted: 6 Aug 2022 10:06 - Edited by: gcrank1
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Windows are the easiest and most vulnerable...even a casual thief (and many arent casual anymore) can do that quick. Any good sized chunk of firewood or branch can bash the hole, no tools required. The bigger windows on the cabin would be easy access though we dont really have much of value in there. Not so with the toolshed.
The smaller (24" wide?) on the shed could have a couple of re-bar installed to stop a crawl-thru. The dbl doors Im thinking of using a crossbar inside, placed in hangers, with a hardened pin coming thru a hole in the overlap door and an enclosed pin padlock.
Think it might stop the 'bit more than a casual thief', slow em down anyway....until they made a plan and came back with a cordless tool. But make em work at it!, or go for easier pickins.
I also have an old motorcycle theft alarm that throws a piercing tone and resets after a few minutes. If I hook it up to the doors......
Along with some signs and a couple of trail cams. I especially like the idea of down low to catch the license plate.
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kittysmitty
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# Posted: 8 Aug 2022 11:53
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Never going to stop someone if they really want to get in. You can slow them down or discourage them and they might move to an easier target. He's my set up but you are limited to the quality of strength of your padlocks.
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gcrank1
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# Posted: 8 Aug 2022 19:54
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And like Paulz said, anybody with a cordless grinder and heavy duty cutting disc will be through it quick
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darz5150
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# Posted: 9 Aug 2022 00:31 - Edited by: darz5150
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Don't mean to keep harping on it. But there is no sure fire way to stop some one from breaking in.
There are so many cameras available and come in all shapes and sizes at every price range you need. Pinhole cams, trail cams, cube cams, key fob cams, pen cams, 12 volt car cams etc.
Cameras may be able to help catch the jerk that ripped you off. But also covers your butt over lawsuits, tresspassors things like that.
Quoting: kittysmitty you are limited to the quality of strength of your padlocks.
You are also assuming that no one has a screw driver to remove the hinges on your door behind the re bar and padlock.
I lost a couple grand worth of tools at a place I worked a long time ago. To a fine citizen with a nut driver and a pair of harbor freight tin snips that they used to break into a pole barn type shop. After that I put a 12 volt battery and a car alarm with a motion sensor in my tool box. I bolted all the boxes together. Even tho the box was on wheels. No one would roll out of the shop with it yelping.
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paulz
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# Posted: 9 Aug 2022 09:21 - Edited by: paulz
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This thread reminded me to order another SQ11 camera. They are about a 1" cube in size, take 5 minute motion triggered videos and store them on an SD card. The knock on them is the little internal battery doesn't last long, the hack is to open it up and wire in a USB cable or an external battery, which I did on the one going at my city house right now.
Google it, around 10 bucks. For covert use of course, not to scare anyone away.
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