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creeky
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# Posted: 15 Feb 2013 14:27
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thanks for all the replies. I ordered the eccotemp. Hot showers next year. whew.

Sustainusfarm
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# Posted: 16 Feb 2013 00:38
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I want one too! Now I gotta find me some water!.

davey25
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# Posted: 20 Feb 2013 15:48
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I have a similar setup a 55 gallon barrel that goes down a hill about say 20 feet of head then obviously back up to the shower head which is about 6ft. The pressure was decent but nothing strong.I want to ad one of the ecotemp heaters to this system and Im thinking i would need a shurflo pump..can anyone reccomend what series they use? marine or rv? And will this pump automatically start when the tap starts.. or would you need to connect the pump everytime you use the shower. The reason i think i may need a pump is because i tried my coleman hot water heater in this setup and it didnt work, barely any water came out. Thanks

MikeOnBike
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# Posted: 20 Feb 2013 16:58 - Edited by: MikeOnBike
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Quoting: davey25
..can anyone reccomend what series they use? marine or rv? And will this pump automatically start when the tap starts..


I'm using this:

http://www.amazon.com/SHURflo-4008-101-E65-Revolution-Water-Pump/dp/B002XM5G70

and

http://www.amazon.com/SHURflo-255-313-Classic-Twist-Strainer/dp/B000V2W0GE/

with an Eccotemp L5. It is probably a bit overkill but I plan to use it in my cabin once we get that built. Currently just running the L5 in an outdoor shower. Beware the ground squirrels, they will chew the wires off.

It does shut off when the shower head is turned off. It is a pretty standard RV part. If you have any leaks in the line after the pump it will pump, pause, pump, pause, etc.

razmichael
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# Posted: 20 Feb 2013 17:43
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Quoting: MikeOnBike
If you have any leaks in the line after the pump it will pump, pause, pump, pause, etc.

If you are concerned about this then use an rv/marine faucet with a built in micro-switch such as Whale Faucet. You bypass the pressure switch in the pump (or don't - works either way) and the pump is activated when you turn on the tap. This adds a slight bit of complexity to the wiring (especially if you have a long distance between the tap and the pump) but does eliminate any concerns of a continuous on-off pumping if things spring a leak. In my case I'm using a relay at the pump with the wires from the tap activating the relay - pump.

Anonymous
# Posted: 20 Feb 2013 22:11
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I just seen a flojet 50 p.s.i 2.9 gpm so basically the same but the big difference is this one is 4.4 amps compared to the shurflo at 7.5..
Why so much more amperage wouldn't the shurflo be way harder on the battery?

MikeOnBike
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# Posted: 20 Feb 2013 22:28
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Quoting: Anonymous
I just seen a flojet 50 p.s.i 2.9 gpm so basically the same but the big difference is this one is 4.4 amps compared to the shurflo at 7.5..


I wonder about the amp ratings. I'm going to measure mine under load when I get it hooked back up this spring. Yes lower always better. It seems odd that 5 more psi and .5 more gpm would 'require' that much more juice. Maybe the owners manual will list amp requirements for certain amounts of lift.

hebegbz
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# Posted: 20 Feb 2013 23:52
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I have been using a Bosch for the last four years, and it is the bees knees.
For security I opted for the model that goes outside. I hung it on the back of my cabin and plumbed it through the wall. It runs on a 20 lb tank and can be removed in less than three minutes. It has its own internal heaters, but since we are off grid,we have no power, so when it freezes overnight, I just pull it off the wall and bring it inside to prevent possible damage. It weighs about 50 lbs. Fortunately, it only gets that cold occasionally.
It will take water from a tank that is only a few degrees above freezing and get it hot enough for a steamy shower or a sink of dishes. In the summer you need to turn it way down. It even lights itself without power using the water flow.
It was pricey, about $800, but it has worked perfectly for the last four years.

davey25
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# Posted: 17 Mar 2013 23:09
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Does anyone know where to get the marey in Canada..I've decided on that one because of their 5 year warranty but they want like 100 to ship it. If I can't find it ill go with the Ecco temp or eztankless..

Rick004
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# Posted: 18 Mar 2013 14:16
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On eBay there is a guy in Quebec that ships for free in Canada !

davey25
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# Posted: 18 Mar 2013 20:11
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I'll look what kind does he sell?

davey25
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# Posted: 18 Mar 2013 22:22
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I see some from Quebec seems like a no name brand for 200 free shipping which is more than the others with shipping

Rick004
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# Posted: 18 Mar 2013 23:45
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I'm not sure of the brand but if you check the specifications I think the BTUs are much higher ?

Rossman
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# Posted: 30 May 2013 08:31
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Quoting: davey25
Does anyone know where to get the marey in Canada..I've decided on that one because of their 5 year warranty but they want like 100 to ship it. If I can't find it ill go with the Ecco temp or eztankless..


You could possibly use a service like Kinek to get an address at a US border crossing, ship the Marey there, then drive across pick it up and drive back? Gotta pay HST and possibly duty but you will save on the shipping fees and prob still come out ahead.

Not sure if this is an option for you...

creeky
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# Posted: 30 May 2013 13:10
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i'm using the shurflo revolution. man that thing is quiet.

nice.

i pick my internet purchases at the ups store in ogdensburg ny. saves me hundreds in shipping and handling. plus i get a cheaper gas fill up and lunch at busters...

Rossman
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# Posted: 30 May 2013 15:29
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Nice creeky, I found that Kinek has a drop location in Ogdensburg which is ideal for me (our property is in Merrickville).

UPS is ok as a drop location but if you leave your package there too long their fees get a bit silly.

creeky
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# Posted: 31 May 2013 07:16
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I'm down there next week, and I'll be checking out the Kinek location. thx.
btw. I'm between you and Og. In Patterson's corners.

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