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Borrego
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# Posted: 4 Feb 2013 21:35
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New stove question: can I use a new Amana stove with electric power (just for elec ignition, no clock) and somehow change the ignition to battery? Or will these new stoves simply not work off-grid. I will have solar within a year, but I would like to use it now, it is a brand new, free to me, unit and I would hate to turn it down.

MtnDon
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# Posted: 4 Feb 2013 22:39
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The big problem with most gas ranges that have electronic ignition is the oven. Stove top burners can always be lit with a match or other flame. You can even power the ignition via an inverter most of the time.

Most ovens in those ranges use a "burner bar" in the oven. Basically it is an electrically heated bar that is AC powered and must have AC all the time the oven is on. They are not off grid friendly.

For sucessful off grid use you need either a cheap range with pilot lights for the burners and oven, or you need a more rare and more expensive range designed specially for off grid use, like some by Unique and Peerless premier.

Borrego
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# Posted: 4 Feb 2013 22:51
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Thanks Don. Really I just want the top burners, oven will be rarely used. So I can just light the top burners with a lighter, like the old days? Or cut the cord and use a solar feed for the igniter?

For future use with solar, do the burnerbars draw a lot of amps?

MtnDon
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# Posted: 5 Feb 2013 00:04
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Quoting: Borrego
Or cut the cord and use a solar feed for the igniter


Not sure about that. No idea if they need AC, as they "buzz" ...


Quoting: Borrego
do the burnerbars draw a lot of amps?


The GE I am familiar with draws 425 watts every minute the oven control is turned to on. Not just every minute the gas is on and burning, but every minute the oven control is turned to ON and not off. That's a lot of power to warm up the oven and then bake/roast dinner or whatever.


What would the donor think if you sold it and put the money into one of the ranges that are off grid friendly?

rayyy
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# Posted: 5 Feb 2013 11:20
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-MAGIC-CHEF-RV-3-BURNER-LP-GAS-STOVE-OVEN-RANGE-/330666696 695?pt=Motors_RV_Trailer_Camper_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item4cfd455ff7
here is what i bought

Borrego
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# Posted: 5 Feb 2013 21:21
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Quoting: MtnDon
What would the donor think if you sold it and put the money into one of the ranges that are off grid friendly?

My thoughts exactly, it'll be no problem, just hoped I could use the one I had. Checkin out Rayyy's site right now.
Thanks again to you wise fellas...

MJW
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# Posted: 5 Feb 2013 22:02
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This is what we are using.

http://www.lowes.com/pd_432569-481-BFK100OP_0__?Ntt=432569&UserSearch=432569&productI d=3927503&rpp=48

Martian
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# Posted: 6 Feb 2013 09:01
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I have 24" Hotpoint that requires no electricity for either the top or oven.

Tom

beachman
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# Posted: 6 Feb 2013 20:15
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I bought a new Peerless 30" range and was able to have delivered before 2011. I bought it from Ben's Discount in Nevada and had it shipped. I talked to a lot of people about this issue as we have NO electricity. Everything is designed for electronic ignition but since we bought when we did, it was still possible to light the burners and the oven manually. Apparently, after 2010, all gas ovens must have the electronic ignition for lighting so if the power goes out, you cannot use the stove. A safety feature I guess. When lighting the oven, you must hold a match over the pilotl light to start it and then the oven will work. Takes a little messing around but works well. I was supposed to get an LG version but it came as NG. Luckily, it had a conversion kit.

joedepilot
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# Posted: 12 Feb 2013 10:42
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My rv has 3 top burners and an oven and does not use any electricity. Twist a knob to activate sparker. Im sure there must be some used ones out there.

suburbancowboy
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# Posted: 12 Feb 2013 10:51
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I bought a propane oven last year from Home Depot. No electricity needed. Works great. I think it was about 325 at the time.

Borrego
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# Posted: 12 Feb 2013 21:33
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Thanks guys!

davey25
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# Posted: 20 Feb 2013 16:02
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I have a little power booster pack and i just plug the stove into it to get it lit and then unplug it..works great

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