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woodrow03
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# Posted: 13 Feb 2015 09:57
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Had electric installed last fall at our lake place.
I know a septic and future cabin needs to be x am out of feet away from the well.
The company we have contacted for a quote has been in business for 30+ years and have had great reviews all around and with word of mouth.
Never had a well installed. Anything y'all could suggest?
Tips on location placement? And why? Past experiences?
Peculation test has been done and two septic designs are drafted for proper location.
Any upgrades y'all suggest?
Going to do an RV hook up set up until we save enough to build a cabin and then switch it over.
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Littlecooner
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# Posted: 13 Feb 2015 17:45
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Yard hydrant could be a nice addition. Need to check with health dept on distance from absorption field and septic tank. Most places here, it's 100' min requirement. Best design - well on one side of house and septic tank on the other side. Build well house of sufficent size to use for storage and add electrical outlet to plug in the 110 heater on super cold nights.
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toyota_mdt_tech
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# Posted: 13 Feb 2015 17:51
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Locate it 100 feet from septic system, in most areas. Nothing can be done around it for 100 feet, so put it right on the boundary so you only lose half your land use and your neighbor loses the other chunk of buildable space. (dont do that, but its true)
Are you in a cold environment, deep frost line? Install a pitless adapter and put everythign into an underghround vault. A frost free hydrant near by. If you build a well house around it, make a chunk of the roof come open for pulling the line/pump out. Maybe even a big rim to act as a pulley, then hook it to your car and pull it up out of the well.Pumps fail, 1" line full of water is heavy at 200+ feet. 
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PatrickH
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# Posted: 13 Feb 2015 22:02 - Edited by: PatrickH
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50' seems shallow for drinking water,when I was getting estimates (northern wis.) 80' was the minimum and they prefer over 100' for drinking water. water pulled from sand using a screen is generally poorer quality water.Its better to case the well deeper and use the bedrock for the screen. Nobody I talked to did anything less than a 6" steel cased well.I tried finding the chart but its something like for every 10 years the topsoil contaminants move down 1 foot.So if your drawing from only 50' the water quality could be reduced if anyone had done anything to the soil in past farming,chemicals etc.I know a guy who built on old farmland and minimum depth was 350' in hastings,mn now 15 years later they are testing for contamination from the farming and may need city water piped in.Our setback is 50' from septic we had a 6" well cased to 87' then drilled to 147' tastes better then the best bottled water you can buy was 5500 cash just for casing and drilling last year.I found some info about how the earths water cycle works,maybe worth a lookURL good luck! I should add our static water level is at about 12' so the depth of drilling was purely done to produce quality water,that will hopefully be good for many years.
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GreatOutdoors
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# Posted: 13 Feb 2015 23:12
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The 50' on the quote says additional footage @ $18.50 a foot. If you have to go deeper - it's $185.00 every ten feet (& that can add up fast if you have to go to 500 feet).
What are the depths of nearby wells?
Check this website for data on nearby wells (assuming this is in Minnesota):
http://www.health.state.mn.us/divs/eh/cwi/
See what the groundwater level is here:
http://climate.umn.edu/ground_water_level/
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turkeyhunter
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# Posted: 14 Feb 2015 10:13
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in deep south....a 6" DEEP well..."no water no pay" is around $4000 and that is pump/tank ext. and hooked up to your camp.
sounds high $$$$ to me.
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PA_Bound
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# Posted: 14 Feb 2015 10:27
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I would +1 to everything already noted. But I would especially look into the expected depth of the well. From your initial post you are next to a lake, which could mean a shallower well is possible. But 50' is pretty shallow, and if you do have to go deeper that $18.50/foot charge could add up to an unexpectedly large bill pretty fast.
BTW... is $18.50/foot a reasonable and customary charge in your area? I had a well drilled in PA in 2011, and they charged me less than half that number. Which was good, because I ended up going 320'.
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Don_P
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# Posted: 14 Feb 2015 16:07
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The $18.50/foot was for drilling, the drop pipe and electric add another $2.26/'. A 6" is standard here as well.
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woodrow03
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# Posted: 15 Feb 2015 09:24
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Great outdoors
Thanks for the links.
I'll look the well depths in the area and will let y'all know.
Yes we are located on an 800 acre lake with great water clarity...
If I recall correctly the guy down the road said they went 51 feet. He lives there full time. Very envious.
Thanks for all the other tips as well.
What about a well house? Or shelter for it.
How big should I expect to build?
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toyota_mdt_tech
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# Posted: 15 Feb 2015 11:40
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Quoting: woodrow03 What about a well house? Or shelter for it. How big should I expect to build?
What are winter temps? You may not be able to use a well house, but an underground vault depending on the freeze depth.
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woodrow03
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# Posted: 17 Feb 2015 09:32
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83 feet and 60 feet down the road one each way.
60 feet typical depth across the lake. Same elevation.
Yes we're in MN
Winter temps can drop to -30
Dont plan on using water in winter until final cabin is build several years down the road.
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hattie
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# Posted: 17 Feb 2015 11:50 - Edited by: hattie
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Our well is dug (not drilled) and only 15 feet deep. It provides plenty of water to drink, water plants, shower, laundry - oh and we have a 3 unit motel too! We have had some pretty bad dry spells here since we moved, but never ran out of water.
Our well is located inside a shed (we built the shed around it) and is lined with cast concrete pipe (about 2 feet in diameter). The pipe is made in short lengths that you can stack up. We have a lid on the well (very important to keep critters out).
Never store oil or gasoline near your well in case it spills and contaminates the water. Also, never put a composter near the well as it will also pollute the water.
As many have already said, most places have regulations that the well must be 100 feet away from any septic (that means yours or your neighbours). Plan out your property with thought. You never want to plant trees, etc. over your septic as the roots will mess it up. You also don't want to put anything heavy over the septic like a trailer or small building. Ideally, your septic field will be just that - a field of grass with nothing else on it.
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