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creeky
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# Posted: 20 Apr 2015 14:24
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I'm turning Japanese. I really think so.

Following my bokashi experiment. i finally get to making some Shou Sugi Ban siding tests.

https://youtu.be/53hpkGN_wtQ

is the video I made.

The process is slow. But after seeing some siding that was made quickly ... it mottles and you have to be careful to get the board fully charred.

I prefer the boards that I applied Tung oil to for two reasons. One is that the black is amazing. Like interstellar black. Just black with infinite depth. And two; it doesn't rub off on you.
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Steve_S
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# Posted: 20 Apr 2015 17:43
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That looks really good Creeky ! Can't wait to see it on your latest cabin. I am curious however, are you not supposed to do all sides of the boards ? The Tung oiled finish does look nicer in the pics.

Gee, now you made me wonder if an old BBQ could be hacked up and used as a pass-through burner for the wood... couple of saw horses on each end and slide the wood through at an even pace to get an even burn.

creeky
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# Posted: 20 Apr 2015 18:13
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Thx. I'm using it for accents. It does look good up.

The videos I saw online from Japan only did one side. I did the board edges as I saw some not so attractive installs and noticed part of that was raw edges.

Pookie129
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# Posted: 21 Apr 2015 10:40
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What a difference the oiled finish makes. Looks great.

creeky
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# Posted: 21 Apr 2015 15:56
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thanks pookie. it makes a real difference in cost too. Two boards drank 10 bucks worth of Tung Oil. I'm gonna need me a cheaper price on that stuff for sure.

But i've got it up framing the door on the chalet/winter bedroom and it looks amazing. tho. might be some bias there.

creeky
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# Posted: 21 Apr 2015 15:59
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Oh. and steve. different parts of the board cooked at different temps. knots took a lot more time. so unless you're going for a real deep char I think you're better off being able to see the burn.

Littlecooner
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# Posted: 22 Apr 2015 08:33
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Western Red Cedar?

creeky
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# Posted: 22 Apr 2015 08:55
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no. I used raw cut eastern white cedar. it's what we have around here. the boards have been floating around the property being used for this and that for four years.

eastern white cedar, you don't get the big boards, but it's been proven to be more resistant to rot than red. very durable.

i have a redwood cedar board I might experiment with. but it's all dressed so probably keep it for decking.

I have three boards face up exposed to sun and, for the past few days, rain. These are untreated. there is no noticeable change in the burnt wood.

I have three boards up on the chalet untreated also. no change. but the two treated boards do look much better in that the colour and texture is uniform.

I'm looking at soya oil as a replacement for tung. It's slower drying. but i think if the board is up on a building. heck. it's got years to dry. might add something. orange oil or some'at to help it dry.

any ideas?

Steve_S
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# Posted: 22 Apr 2015 10:12
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What about Linseed Oil ? Preserves & protects, used as a base for many High Quality stains and while not cheap, little less expensive than Tung Oil.

HomeDepot $10 a litre.
TSC Store $37 a gallon
Canadian Poof Poof $12 litre.

Still would add up to quite a bit I think.

creeky
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# Posted: 23 Apr 2015 09:09
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i have fond memories of linseed oil. did a lot of oil painting when I was a kid. a very very happy kid.

I'm going to try soya oil mixed with K1 kerosene. K1 as I happen to have some on hand.

creeky
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# Posted: 2 May 2015 14:06
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before I start: I would like to send a shout out to Scout100. He did a post on oil finished with soya oil that I found very useful. Thx Scout.

right. soya oil and k1 kerosene test 1:

so I mixed soya oil 2 parts kerosene 1 part. I also did a test where the soya oil was all parts.

the soya oil all parts goes on thicker than the blend.

the soya oil mixed goes on very similar to the tung oil. i did four boards and they drank about a litre (quart) of solution. cost. $3.

results:

super deep uniform black achieved.

rub test: rubs off.

I'll let it dry longer and test again. and I will do a second coat. but both the 100% soya oil and the mix have identical "it rubs off" results.

Compare this to the true drying Tung oil, which even after 10 days of exposure does not rub off at all.

So far: soya oil achieves the beautiful black look. is more prone to friction than the Tung. useful for non-traffic areas?

I do have to say tho. the deep deep black is magical. looks amazing. i have ordered 100 board feet of cedar and I will be doing all my trim this way.

now to find a deal on Tung oil.

deryk
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# Posted: 12 May 2015 01:35
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pictures of your cabin please

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