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Julie2Oregon
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# Posted: 26 May 2016 04:32
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Check out this cabin! Considering that it comes with 151 acres, a shed and a barn (and, wowza, what a view!), the price is actually quite good. If I wanted to do a bigger mortgage and was younger, I would snap this up in a heartbeat.

http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/17850-Cougar-Ridge-Rd_Klamath-Falls_ OR_97603_M16389-64973

naturelover66
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# Posted: 26 May 2016 07:03
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Very nice. I love the interior and the view.

upndown
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# Posted: 26 May 2016 09:00
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Beautiful place, love that area! Is it just me or does that wood burner seem a wee bit close to the bed?

LoonWhisperer
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# Posted: 26 May 2016 11:29
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You had me at 151 acres. Wow! Great place.

Ditchmonkey
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# Posted: 26 May 2016 16:04 - Edited by: Ditchmonkey
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Some nice details in that house. I grew up in the area. This location is close to highway 66 as it enters the Cascade range. Some great outdoor opportunities here (hiking, fishing, skiing). Definitely worth a closer look.

I think the catch here is that this is at the top of a butte, in a pretty dry area, so water is going to be an ongoing challenge.

hattie
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# Posted: 26 May 2016 18:33
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WOW!!! That one is BEAUTIFUL!!! I wonder if they'd consider throwing in the furniture with the deal! You wouldn't need to do anything to get this place ready to move into.

naturelover66
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# Posted: 26 May 2016 19:39
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Yeah that stove would burn ya right out of the bed! I love the doors... And the wood bird sculpture upstairs in the hallway. Wonder if Neb made it? ;)
If i could get my horses up there id never leave.

rockies
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# Posted: 26 May 2016 20:03
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Wow. Is that ever poorly laid out! The open bedroom with the wood heating stove 4 feet from the bed. The single row of kitchen cabinets leaving the fridge and garbage can to "float" in the middle of nowhere. The practically useless second floor with low sloping ceilings. The final insult is the large double height wall of windows facing south that will need covering up all day long with drapes so that the place doesn't turn into a solar oven.

Why do designers think that wall to wall, floor to ceiling windows facing south won't overheat the space and cause unending glare all day long? And the other windows! So far off the floor that a shorter person could never see over the sill.
Gimmicky items like double height doors and fancy "grills" that could never structurally brace a beam. WOOD IN THE SHOWER!

I think someone was trying to cram as much whimsical architectural salvage as possible into a wedge shaped farm accessory building. Still, with all that land you have plenty of room to building something nice next to this.

Julie2Oregon
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# Posted: 27 May 2016 00:07
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Quoting: Ditchmonkey
I think the catch here is that this is at the top of a butte, in a pretty dry area, so water is going to be an ongoing challenge.


Yeah, I had to look up that "Reclamation Water System" thing. I figured that was the trough gizmo pictured. Still not sure. Maybe it is for rainwater.

Since you're from that area, you'll get this. I'm looking at places near Rocky Point and Lake of the Woods.

Julie2Oregon
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# Posted: 27 May 2016 00:10
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hattie
LOL, I was wondering if the furnishings are included, too, or if they had the cabin staged for the photos and showings. It's just so pretty. I love the sitting area in the loft. I can't imagine how awesome it would be to curl up with a book and cup of cocoa up there on a winter's night and stare at the stars through all of those windows!

hattie
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# Posted: 27 May 2016 00:33
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Quoting: Julie2Oregon
I love the sitting area in the loft. I can't imagine how awesome it would be to curl up with a book and cup of cocoa up there on a winter's night and stare at the stars through all of those windows!


Exactly what I was thinking too.

Gary O
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# Posted: 27 May 2016 00:33
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Gorgeous place.
Spectacular view.
Incredible price.
Think I'd want the stove even closer to the bed, just sorta lean over and throw a couple chunks in.

The water situation, however, would be something to check out.
Especially in winter.

Ditchmonkey
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# Posted: 27 May 2016 11:09
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Quoting: rockies
Why do designers think that wall to wall, floor to ceiling windows facing south won't overheat the space and cause unending glare all day long?



So you are opposed to the whole passive solar idea?

Ditchmonkey
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# Posted: 27 May 2016 11:09
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Quoting: Julie2Oregon
I'm looking at places near Rocky Point and Lake of the Woods.


Great area! I spent a lot of time camping at Lake of the Woods while growing up.

Julie2Oregon
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# Posted: 27 May 2016 15:12
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Quoting: Ditchmonkey
So you are opposed to the whole passive solar idea?


Indeed. And I could be wrong but I don't believe these windows ARE facing south. From the view/orientation, it seems that the windows are facing NORTH toward the Klamath Basin and Crater Lake, which would mean that the long, sloping roof is on the south end, and that's where the solar panels are. Which would make total sense.

Additionally, as one who lives in perpetually hot and sunny Texas and whose home has large windows tragically oriented the wrong way, making my front rooms oppressive, I installed tinted window film on them myself. Presto, no more glare and an instant heat reduction. There are far more effective (and pricey) methods for reducing glare and unwanted heat from windows.

Julie2Oregon
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# Posted: 27 May 2016 15:18
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Quoting: Ditchmonkey
Great area! I spent a lot of time camping at Lake of the Woods while growing up.


It is beautiful. Not terribly far from Medford, either, to do the big shopping and lay in supplies.

Just to be clear, the places I'm looking at around there are fixers, lol. Nowhere near this pricetag and acreage or degree of fancy. But I am -- and always have been -- more about location and natural beauty. The cabin can be worked on and made my own, as long as the structure itself is sound.

But if I HAD the budget and was young enough/able to handle 151 acres? Oh, yes. THIS!

Ditchmonkey
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# Posted: 27 May 2016 15:24
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Not too far from Crater Lake either.

rockies
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# Posted: 27 May 2016 22:36
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Ditchmonkey. I'm all in favor of passive solar heating. The problem that developed though with passive solar heating over the last 30 years was that if a couple of windows helped heat the house passively then a "whole ton of windows" must be better. So now a lot of people design houses and cabins like this with shed roofs sloping up towards the south and then put in floor to ceiling, wall to wall windows (or as much as they can manage). The roof overhang may be substantial but is usually not sufficient to shade the windows during the hottest summer months because of the roof angling up.

What usually happens with a design like this is that you get a very large expanse of glass facing south with little to no shading and it can turn a small building into a solar oven. There is just no way to escape all that heat coming in through the glass. Another problem is that with so much light coming in from one direction you can get a lot of glare in the room, so all that glass gets covered with drapes during the day. So much for the view.

As has been pointed out in this thread perhaps the glass wall is facing north. That makes things even worse. The very best windows designed and built today have about the same insulating value as a lousy wall. It's true that you won't get the "solar oven" effect if those windows are facing north but now you're losing heat all day AND night through all that glass.

I suspect that the people who built this cabin put as little thought into the layout as they did for the method of heating and cooling it. If you look at the picture of the kitchen with the window over the sink the sill must be about 18 inches or more above the countertop. Anyone under 6 feet tall sure isn't going to be able to see much. I also suspect that the main floor "bedroom" is only there because the people staging the place couldn't be bothered lugging the bedroom set upstairs to the loft (at least I hope that's the reason) because it sure creates wasted space on the main floor. I'd rather see a large mudroom and a proper kitchen.

It may "look" lovely, it may look cozy, but it's not very well laid out and it's sure going to be a pain trying to heat and cool it.

cabingal3
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# Posted: 28 May 2016 05:46
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i love this property.
wow.what a find.so much land,what a fabulous view.
several things concern me but still if u love it.i would.
that water system.is that it?kfalls is the city of sunshine.
here is some information about kfalls and the water that falls from the sky.

"Klamath Falls, Oregon, gets 14 inches of rain per year. The US average is 37. Snowfall is 38 inches. The average US city gets 25 inches of snow per year. The number of days with any measurable precipitation is 86.

On average, there are 218 sunny days per year in Klamath Falls, Oregon. The July high is around 85 degrees. The January low is 21. Our comfort index, which is based on humidity during the hot months, is a 71 out of 100, where higher is more comfortable. The US average on the comfort index is 44."
i worry u wont have much water in that trough .
the other thing i see.this is just me.
is the wood stove the only source of heat?those are mighty tall ceilings for such a wood stove.
the other thing is getting out of there in the winter.is the road up to your place county maintained.u might want to find out Julie.
otherwise u will be snowed in...or have a slippery icy time getting to town for supplies.
but i would love that place.its so cute and all the land is what has my interest piqued.

Julie2Oregon
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# Posted: 28 May 2016 06:43
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cabingal3

Oh, I'm not considering it, lol. It would be a "dream cabin" and in that dream, I'd drill a well or have water delivered. Nah, too steep for my budget, too steep for my car and drive to the store, too much land to deal with, you get the picture. But if I were much younger and much more flush with cash, oh yeah.

Wait 'til you see what the "reality cabin" will be. ;) Quite a contrast with this one but it will be home.

upndown
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# Posted: 28 May 2016 07:54
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Very tempting! But I agree, all that land is just a tax burden if one can't use it.
"Reality Cabin", isn't that all that really matters Julie? Can't wait to see where you take us!

silverwaterlady
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# Posted: 28 May 2016 10:48
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I think paying a little more in taxes and having the neighbors further away is worth the expense because one cannot choose neighbors and one never knows what one is going to have to deal with.

The view is beautiful but the land looks so dry,not enough tress and to much scrub. I wonder why the owners are selling? Could it be the lack of water?

Julie,I am patiently waiting as I'm sure everyone else is to see the cabin you choose. Exciting times for sure!

Gary O
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# Posted: 28 May 2016 12:20
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On a skewed forensic note; I agree with suma what rockies says.
Seems someone with a few bucks put up that place, gave it some expensive (useless) cute frills and had a stab at water.
Could be a summer vacation retreat, I s'pose.

But, the water thing..... heh heh.
Pack it in?
Water.....is....heavy.

aaand

If one drilled a well (prolly to the center of the earth)...what would it taste like?

Not a good place to dwell year round (as it stands).

Pretty, though.

Julie2Oregon
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# Posted: 28 May 2016 16:51
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Yeah, the water thing is a PITA way south in Oregon near Klamath Falls, if you're not on a muni water system or there isn't a well in already. I knew that going into it when I got the land through the guy who sold me the "wrong" lot and then didn't want me to take down a bunch of trees. I figured it into the cost of building and my overall plan.

But the properties I'm considering are northwest and northeast of this area. All of them have wells in. Makes things a whole lot easier. And, thankfully, with a well and septic already in and the cabin built, I'm not under the gun, frenetically trying to get things settled here and everything built there before cold weather returns.

Obviously, I can't post the places I'm investigating/negotiating on. I had hoped to firm up an offer this week as the investor who has been keen to buy my house was supposed to come over Thursday to discuss particulars and timetable. He didn't show up, grrrr. At the moment, I'm doing FSBO through a couple of channels and I've had some other inquiries. If it doesn't work out, though, I'll have to call in a Realtor, sigh. The feedback I've gotten, though, is I've priced my house right, it's desirable, and there is real interest in purchasing it. It's only May. This will happen.

Thanks, upndown and silverwaterlady!

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