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sparky30_06
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# Posted: 7 Sep 2016 14:17
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ok let me start out by saying I grew up in the country and working with livestock. I have installed a few septic systems and have a good understanding on how a conventional septic works. Where I have my hunting shack is all rock. Can't hardly drive a T post let alone dig a trench without a jack hammer or dynamite.
So the cabin is used by me and maybe one other person 1 weekend a month. I was thinking about making a homemade macerating unit out of a garbage disposal and dumping it out into the cow pasture with the cows. The bathroom sink and shower would also drain through the unit providing additional water to clean it out. Pasture has lots of sun, sun come out, dries it up and it blows away. Similar to a toilet seat next to a tree.
Anyone ever tried or built a homemade macerating unit??
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Nate R
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# Posted: 7 Sep 2016 18:55
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Incinolet?
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NorthRick
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# Posted: 7 Sep 2016 20:13
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No, but I imagine you could find what you need at Westmarine or some other boating supply outfit.
Human waste left in the open is generally frowned upon by authorities as it has the potential to spread disease. Some guys up here with cabins on permafrost build the outhouse such that a 55-gallon drum fits under the seat. They periodically haul it out and burn the contents. I have no idea how they get it to burn.
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MtnDon
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# Posted: 7 Sep 2016 21:18
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Diesel with about 20% gasoline to get it going hot. Same as we use for starting slash fires when the slash is not dry. That burned a lot of poo in vietnam.
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Ontario lakeside
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# Posted: 7 Sep 2016 21:18
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Typically it is burned with diesel. A better way is to store the waste in a 55 gallon plastic drum. after ageing for one year or more the material becomes compost suitable for use on trees and non edible plants.
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hueyjazz
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# Posted: 7 Sep 2016 21:45
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Well, not the most pleasant of topics but:
We have done it three ways since water table prevents installing septic.
1. RV portable toilet or two. These have two compartments. One is flush water and the other is collection. Ball valve dumps into collection side then seals. Take home and dump. Oh joy
2. Bag and burn. Store in small galvanized trash can with tight fitting lid. Toss into hot fire and gone. Really not that bad if you do frequent fires. If not, well; who's the guinea pig taking off the top in the summer?
3. Boat toilet with large RV collection tank. Bring to State park and use RV flush center. Biggest pain is transport. I'm lucky in that State Park is 15 miles away and a year pass is fairly cheap.
Burning the half drum of you know what was done with kerosene or fuel oil. Don't recommend.
Human dun out in the open is far worst than cow manure. Closer to pig crap but still worse. And while in school I worked a farm and sucked out septic tanks so uh, let's say I got experience in all forms.
I think you would regret that set up. Even to work you would need a fair amount of water and likely a commercial disposal unit. Seems like cesspool material to me. And certainly against health code.
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sparky30_06
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# Posted: 8 Sep 2016 06:45
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Wow guess no one has ever taken a #2 when out hiking or camping in the middle of the bush. Or maybe they have and just carried it back in their pocket.
This is a shake that will be slept in one night a month not a hotel.
And an outhouse with a hole in the ground is up to health codes?
Guess I should start bagging up all the cow, deer, raccoon and wild pig crap before it a bio hazard out there.
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sparky30_06
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# Posted: 8 Sep 2016 06:57
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Quoting: hueyjazz Human dun out in the open is far worst than cow manure. Closer to pig crap but still worse.
If that is the case about pig crap then we are in for a massive problem with the amount of feral hogs running around and breeding in North America!!
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FishHog
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# Posted: 8 Sep 2016 08:40
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Quoting: sparky30_06 Wow guess no one has ever taken a #2 when out hiking or camping in the middle of the bush. And an outhouse with a hole in the ground is up to health codes?
bit of a different situation to spreading it. Walk into the bush, dig a shallow hole. Have at it, and then cover and you will be fine. But will suck when you run out of spots to dig.
An outhouse properly constructed is a valid method. again different than spreading.
As for deer/racoon, bit of a difference than human, if you don't want to get sick.
There are right ways and worng ways to deal with this. People are suggesting the right methods. If you don't want to hear the answer, you shouldn't ask.
If your really that infrequent, bag it, and throw it in the garbage when you get home.
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razmichael
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# Posted: 8 Sep 2016 08:59
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Quoting: FishHog If your really that infrequent, bag it, and throw it in the garbage when you get home.
HomeDepot )
and use bags that contain a "bio-gel" to make removing and transporting home (or to land fill) much less risky. Put some hessian around it and you have some privacy if you need/want it. We used one at our cabin land prior to putting in the outhouse (which is done to code and acceptable by the way).
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LoonWhisperer
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# Posted: 8 Sep 2016 11:13
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Quoting: razmichael or similarly, for infrequent use try a camping toilet - less than $100
That's what we use. Works just fine for our purposes.
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buckybuck
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# Posted: 8 Sep 2016 11:50 - Edited by: buckybuck
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We use a Thetford Curve ("The Cadillac of Crappers") at our weekend cabin. Maybe a composting toilet would have worked better, but I had concerns that we didn't stay at the cabin often enough in order to use a compost toilet efficiently, and I was worried about showing up some weekend only to find varmints had used the composting toilet as a pinata.
I bring our camping toilet home every couple of months and empty it into the outside sewer cleanout. I'm not saying it's a fun job, but it isn't too bad, especially if you remember to vent the holding tank before opening the drain cap.
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Wilbour
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# Posted: 8 Sep 2016 11:57
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Quoting: razmichael or similarly, for infrequent use try a camping toilet - less than $100 (less than $40CND for the most simple type - HomeDepot )and use bags that contain a "bio-gel" to make removing and transporting home (or to land fill) much less risky
I bought a gently used chemical toilet off of Kijiji. (ended up being a co-worker who listed it  )
I also use a luggable loo for me. I didn't want to clog up the chem-toilet with my #2 but I encourage others to use it.
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creeky
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# Posted: 8 Sep 2016 19:36
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If you're camping and doing 2. Bury it less than 9" deep. you want the air and the bugs to digest things for you.
I've only posted this a hundred or so times. But I have had remarkable success with bokashi. Its a Japanese poo pickling bacteria. Similar to making yogurt. And it works great. The how-to recipe is at the link.
No smell. No bad stuff left alive. It comes "girlfriend approved." I used it all last winter for my 5 gallon bucket in the winter bedroom. The Ms. never complained. Or even noticed odour.
In fact she's been bugging me to get the 5 gallon going again. I dump the ... in the forest.
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tfsimmons
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# Posted: 12 Sep 2016 13:48
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I got pooped out looking for a replacement for our toilet-seat-over-a-hole setup and finally decided on a simple sawdust toilet outhouse (see outhouse pics).
I got a big bag full of sawdust free from a local lumberyard and leak-proof kitchen garbage can bags for bucket liners.
I tried out our new outhouse over Labor Day weekend. With nine people "participating", I took two bags home to the garbage.
I like the sawdust bucket toilet - no expense to speak of, little to no smell, but there is some dust.
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paulz
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# Posted: 12 Sep 2016 15:03
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If you must go #2
Without having a loo
And town is too far
To travel by car
Then a bucket's the best you can do
I need to bring home a couple of barrels full of waste and dump them down my city sewer clean out. Lots of water in it (conventional flush toilet) along with 1 and 2. The only hose I have is 1.5" ID (old fire hose). Do the solids break down after awhile to go through the hose?
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LastOutlaw
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# Posted: 16 Sep 2016 07:50 - Edited by: LastOutlaw
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Look at the book "Humanure"
Shows how to build your own composting toilet.
http://humanurehandbook.com/manual.html
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bldginsp
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# Posted: 16 Sep 2016 23:11
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Quoting: paulz If you must go #2 Without having a loo And town is too far To travel by car Then a bucket's the best you can do
But if you should find
You left your bucket behind
And nature's call
Leaves you no time at all
Do as the bears do, and do your do
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darz5150
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# Posted: 16 Sep 2016 23:50 - Edited by: darz5150
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In days of old
When knights were bold
And toilets weren't invented,
You left your load
Beside the road,
Then walked away contented.
We have a traditional outhouse, but also have an Inside/ Outhouse.
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