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jbos333
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# Posted: 9 Dec 2010 22:52
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Hi, I have been checking out this site for a while but finally decided to sign up. Lots of great info here. I noticed many NY members. Anybody in Western NY area?
Anyhow, I am looking to build a 800-1000 sf place on some land I inherited. It's 80 acres, with a 5 acre and 1 acre pond. I already have a pole barn with electric at one end of the place, but I really am in love with a building site about 1000 ft away from it. Which means new driveway in, new electric service/2nd meter (or solar). It's about 500 ft from the road, but not visible at all from the road due to the terrain. But it's secluded, has a great view of the larger pond, and excellent southern exposure.
I have done a LOT of research/pricing and I think I've decided to do a 24x40 pole barn style structure with maybe a 1/2 loft, and an elevated wooden first floor structure creating a crawl space. I've priced poured and block basements, and I'm not sure I can spend the extra 10k or so. And I think the pole style lends itself to DIY over a period of time.
Have any of you done this type of constuction?
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cabingal3
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# Posted: 12 Dec 2010 07:53
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not us but u sure are blessed to have inheirited 80 acres,with ponds.u sound like u have good ideas and i wish u the best.
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dabones
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# Posted: 12 Dec 2010 10:59
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Our place is in WNY.. near Olean.. where is your place?
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fooboo
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# Posted: 12 Dec 2010 11:19
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If you can get down to 20' or less in width, you can find a great set of plans over at countryplans.com for a 20x30 1-1/2 story cabin. That set of plans could easily be expanded to 20x40 or pretty much any length, as long as the 20' dimension doesn't change. Many people who hang out on that website also hang out here.
The plan I mentioned above is not a pole barn using purlins and girts. Instead it uses regular stick lumber put together with typical framing methods. If you are going to have a loft, I believe the cost of the cabin will be cheaper using regular framing instead of pole barn framing, unless you have access to free poles. You might want to price it out both ways.
The 24' width is also a factor. At that width, you will need a structural roof beam instead of a simple roof ridge board, and you'll need a center beam under your floor instead of a continuous span of floor joists. That adds a lot to the cost so 20' is quite a bit cheaper than 24'.
If you have access to free poles, well then that changes everything I've said. If you have free poles, stick with the pole barn method and just make sure your roof is built well enough to handle that New York snow load.
Good luck with your project, it sounds like a fantastic place!
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Borrego
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# Posted: 12 Dec 2010 21:01
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I am currently building a pole house in the SoCal desert This is the link:
http://www.small-cabin.com/forum/2_645_0.html
Here is a site that has some good info:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/11992924/Pole-Building-Construction
You won't need free poles, they are cheap enough anyway... Check with your local Power Company, they may be free...
And with all respect to fooboo, poles are waay cheaper and sturdier than anything else out there. Saves a ton of money, since once you get the poles in and the lower and upper girders in, that's all the support you'll need. No headers, beams, nothin'!
Check out the site I mentioned above and let me know if you have any questions..
Good Luck!
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