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justins7
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# Posted: 21 Jun 2019 10:11
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I really want to move here. No cell phones, no wifi...
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/21/opinion/sunday/wifi-wilderness-privacy-reserves.ht ml?action=click&module=Well&pgtype=Homepage§ion=Sunday%20Review
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Eddy G
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# Posted: 21 Jun 2019 12:33
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It sucks! It sounds great until you just want a loaf of bread!......We have zero with a 0 coverage in south western NH where our cabin is at....If you look at one of those antenna location sites our cabin is in the middle of a bulls eye with nothing around it for 20 to 30 miles... Its not convenient or practical.....It would be nice to call my wife when she's out picking up groceries because we forgot something...Or have our kids be able to let us know they are running late or not going to show up... I'm all for shutting off the technology when were up there but in this day and age its essential and there really isn't any reason it shouldn't be available.....Sorry, it strikes a nerve with me...
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hattie
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# Posted: 21 Jun 2019 12:36
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The village I live in has no cell phones either. WiFi is by line of sight to a tower. If you can't see the tower from your home, you can't get WiFi.
Many people who come here are quite panicked when they realize their phones won't work. 
Also, there are no stores in our town. We shop in the next town which is 19 km away. The closest Tim Horton's and Starbucks are 1.5 hours away. Many question how we can possibly live like this. 
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NorthRick
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# Posted: 21 Jun 2019 14:20
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Quoting: Eddy G It sucks! It sounds great until you just want a loaf of bread!......We have zero with a 0 coverage in south western NH where our cabin is at....If you look at one of those antenna location sites our cabin is in the middle of a bulls eye with nothing around it for 20 to 30 miles... Its not convenient or practical.....It would be nice to call my wife when she's out picking up groceries because we forgot something...Or have our kids be able to let us know they are running late or not going to show up... I'm all for shutting off the technology when were up there but in this day and age its essential and there really isn't any reason it shouldn't be available.....Sorry, it strikes a nerve with me...
Get an InReach. You can send and receive text messages via satellite pretty much anywhere in the world. I have one and have used it in remote areas of Alaska. Where I work we do some very remote jobs and use these on those projects. They were vital for communicating from Attu Island. Look that up on a map, about as remote as you can get, except for Antarctica.
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Steve_S
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# Posted: 21 Jun 2019 14:31
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LMAO, I love this post....
Gee, the property I have has a lot of glacial rubble under it from the last glaciers that ripped through here. The result is that there is literally every kind of rock mineral lying around all over the place. A side effect of that, thanks to the lodestone and others, is there is dead spots on this property where there is no way to get any signal... phone or even AM/FM radio. Inside the cabin happens to be one such spot ! LMAO, who needs a Faraday Cage !
Natural Blackout zone but there are some drawbacks... see a lot of voice mails cause no ring (no service) and it can be inconvenient BUT I grew up with landlines so not really. Those were the days that people could think on things, not be pummeled every second with some tripe or flash news bunk.
It makes me wonder... how are the Phone Addicted & Dependent going to handle being without for any period of time ? Talk about giving up a lot of independence & self-reliance. Always hilarious to watch people go into Panic Mode cause they have no signal ! Like WHAT, Are they running Nuclear Reactors which could go critical any second ? They sure react like they are.... Oivey ! They NEED Therapy IMO.
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justins7
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# Posted: 21 Jun 2019 16:50
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That's what is so fascinating about the article — how people react to living without cellphones.
I thought it was relevant to this forum because many of us are seeking to escape to our cabins.
The photos are excellent too.
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Gone2TheCamp
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# Posted: 25 Jun 2019 13:05
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I'm not a fan of this article...or the concept.
It's pretty easy....turn it off.
There's a difference between being able to communicate if you need to, and ignoring the people around you for hours while you flip through a Facebook feed.
I have no signal at my camp. I have signal NEAR my camp. How many times could a pain in the neck have been averted by having the ability to send a simple text or make a 30-second call.
Blaming cell phones for being annoying and taking all your time away from everything else is like blaming a gun for shooting someone or a blaming a fork for making you fat.
How much time would I have saved if I could have just brought up a you-tube video to see how to do something while I framed, insulated, sheeted, sided...my camp?
We need to stop blaming THINGS for our shitty behavior.
I went to a friend's place that was having a group of people over for a campfire and tent-out night. At one point, every single person at the fire was twiddling with their phone. Is that the phone's fault?
My neighbours closest to my camp live their year-round. Both of them have jobs that need Internet to be able to do. So, they have satellite Internet. I can't begin to explain how nice it is to be able to walk to their place, stand on the path near their garage and catch their wifi and be able to let my wife know that I'm okay, let her know not to head up in the morning because I'm heading home then, confirm with a friend who was thinking of coming to visit that I'm indeed at the camp and not 3 hours drive in the other direction or something...
If I had cell service at the camp, my smart phone would stay exactly where it does now when I arrive at the camp...shut off, in the glove box.
We don't rub sticks together to start our fires, we use matches or a lighter. There's nothing wrong with using technology that makes your life easier, or that could save your life, for that matter. If you don't have the will power to shut your cellphone off, don't blame the phone.
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Steve_S
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# Posted: 25 Jun 2019 13:12
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Different strokes for different folks !
I may be in a semi-dead zone BUT I'm online right ? I am Typing this while online. My phone connects to my wifi if I need it to... But I have a Satellite Connection and that works when I want it to... and not when I turn it off.
Part of the problem in 2019, is that many could not function without "tech" like their phone, shocking but true and it's more than just Jonesing for it.
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justins7
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# Posted: 25 Jun 2019 15:24
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I hear you. Although I do have good cell service at my cabin property my wife and I try to minimize usage. It's very useful, yet something to limit at the same time.
That image of the campfire is pretty much what I try to avoid. People keep asking me to Instagram my experiences at the camp, but I resist since I want to actually experience life, not tweet, twit and message it.
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Steve_S
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# Posted: 25 Jun 2019 16:39
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Quoting: justins7 That image of the campfire is pretty much what I try to avoid. People keep asking me to Instagram my experiences at the camp,
The irony in that is, they are likely spending so much time on Social Media that they can only live vicariously through other people posts, rather than actually going out and "having a life". Pretty sad really when you think of how many are stuck in SM rather than actually living life.
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ICC
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# Posted: 25 Jun 2019 16:58 - Edited by: ICC
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A friend in WV lives in that area, drives him nuts at times. But it is a beautiful place and he's been there all his life.
I love my smartphone and the fact that many places on my property has good coverage. I would rather have the coverage than live in a dead zone.
Every device has an on-off switch. Everybody has a brain. Use the brain to decide when to turn the device on or off or to simply ignore it. The smartphone is just another tool to me.
Years ago before cell phones were popular and coverage wide a friend got his leg caught in the PTO. He died before anyone missed him.
My phone is always on me. I often check to see what who the incoming message is from and let it go if I don't care to answer or read at that moment. Just like when the phone used to be tied to the wires that came through the wall. If I was out, the answer machine was there.
When I travel to more remote areas I have my SPOT with me, (emergency sat messenger), and/or a handheld transceiver (amateur radio band or aviation nav/com). I love being able to have communication ability. That does not mean I have to be "on" all the time.
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turkeyboyslim
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# Posted: 13 Jul 2019 20:58
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My property has no cell phone service, there is no power lines on the 5+ mile long road I live on .in fact my whole town has no cell phone service, unless you have a house where there are power poles and you get service through wifi.
I've settled on Satellite internet, I quite simply need to be able to make phone calls to get things done. Call a place for quotes for gravel for a foundation, Figure out where the nearest building supply store is, call the cottage shop to ask about some of there building kits (it would be a 6 hour round trip to go there and ask)
Satellite internet does suck, its expensive and you hardly get anything from it compared to even cheap cable internet. However it's beautiful and quite where I live and that what I love. I Don't think I could go completly without some kind of connection to the outside world though, I simply don't have enough skills and knowledge. I rely on things like this website, youtube and google search to quickly figure out general information, how-to's and troubleshooting advice.
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Thelar
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# Posted: 19 Jul 2019 11:34
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I really enjoyed the link. Thanks for posting it justins7. The writers introspective really hit home with me for some reason. It seems that I am always moving full steam ahead trying to improve connectivity at my camp. The one place I go to disconnect. It made me pause and think. Maybe standing on the picnic table in the yard to make a phone call, or the slow point to point internet service, is not such a bad thing after all.
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paulz
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# Posted: 19 Jul 2019 12:17
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I forgot my phone on a trip to Home Depot the other day, does that count?
Medical emergencies are what would worry me. My house in the city is a half mile from a large hospital. I know it's a half mile because driving there with a kidney stone I counted every yard. At the cabin medical help is many more miles away, probably a half hour before an ambulance would arrive. Fortunately at least I have 4G LTE to call one.
So my wife blabs on the phone, watches streaming TV and I read cabin forums.. We also have OTA television, 3 stations. I'm glad we have it for the evenings, otherwise we might have to talk to each other.
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