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paulz
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# Posted: 18 Aug 2019 17:01 - Edited by: paulz
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Noticed at the flea market today that it was 12vdc instead of the usual 18 so picked it up for $10. Almost boots up but wants a Windows XP file. No CD drive, I guess you can hook up an external one. It does have wireless, bluetooth, USB, ethernet ports and an SD card. I can get it to boot up in BIOS, whatever that is.
I have Windows 7 CDs for my desktop. Any way to get that loaded or am I just wasting my time?
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moneypitfeeder
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# Posted: 18 Aug 2019 19:53
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Can you use another computer to copy the files from the cds you have onto a thumb drive? You might be able to boot from that?
Take a look at these instructions for how to boot from BIOs
http://www.boot-disk.com/boot_priority.htm
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ICC
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# Posted: 18 Aug 2019 21:54
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I had one of those eee1000's once but ran Linux on it. IRCC, mine had only 1 GB of RAM and even on Linux I thought it was horribly slow; but then I can be impatient.
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paulz
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# Posted: 18 Aug 2019 22:20
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This one has a card that plugs in the side for added RAM, I think that's what it does.
Moneypit, thanks, yeah I have been playing around with it, and resting my sore knee. I have a thumb drive all set to go in my desktop, and my Windows 7 CD, BUT I CAN"T FIND THE DAM CODE that came with the CD. I hate this stuff, that is why I work with wheelbarrows and chainsaws, harder to lose.
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ICC
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# Posted: 18 Aug 2019 23:04 - Edited by: ICC
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Quoting: paulz This one has a card that plugs in the side for added RAM, I think that's what it does.
You made me curious about that, so I found some old info I had on the eee1000. The slot in the side is for an SD or SDHC memory card... storage space not RAM.
Some came with 1 GB and some 2 GB of RAM; 2 GB was maximum RAM. They had either 40 GB (8 + 32) or an 80 GB or 160 GB hard drive. The Linux version had the SSD (actually 2-SSD and Windows the hard drive. The reason the charger is lower voltage than the usual today is that it has a 6 cell battery rated at 7.4 volts.
It was really nice for carrying around but too slow for the map software I wanted to run.
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justinbowser
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# Posted: 18 Aug 2019 23:49
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I think I would download UBUNTU LINUX distro and go that route. I think you can make a boot image onto a thumb drive. I have an external DVD drive I use on the wife's old Dell...
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paulz
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# Posted: 19 Aug 2019 15:28 - Edited by: paulz
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Hmm, Linux, that's an idea.
I have Windows 7 loaded via thumbnail, loading chrome now via wifi. I'm familiar with this stuff as it's on my desktop at home, so if it works that would be nice. I only have the 1GB RAM so we'll see.
I really like the size of this thing, fits good on my belly. And the 12v low consumption is nice. It has the solid state drive.
Thanks for the help guys.
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ICC
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# Posted: 19 Aug 2019 18:39
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Quoting: paulz Windows 7............. I only have the 1GB RAM so we'll see.
32 bit Win7 should run, but if it is 64 bit Win7 you may have a problem. 64 bit has always had a 2 GB minimum, IIRC.
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moneypitfeeder
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# Posted: 19 Aug 2019 18:54
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Paulz, lol, I understand completely with the "lost code" I had to upgrade my mom's pc awhile back (she wouldn't get a new one and I wanted her to get the new windows upgrade when it was free). What a pita! We have macs, so trying to transfer upgrade files from our computer to hers/upgrade/change versions, I almost bought her a new one to be done with it, but we got hers upgraded! Hope you can get it running!
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paulz
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# Posted: 19 Aug 2019 21:19
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Sending from the Asus machine. It's 32 bit. I bought a new Windows 7 code on ebay for $6, supposed to be legal, off old computers maybe. Got Chrome loaded but really slow. Did some tweaks to Windows, better now, still playing around.
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moneypitfeeder
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# Posted: 20 Aug 2019 15:26
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That's great Paulz, you might want to try to install an ad-blocker to chrome, I use Adblock Plus (no affiliation) it helped to speed up my computer. The ads were really bogging down my browsing speed.
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paulz
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# Posted: 20 Aug 2019 17:17
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Thanks MPF. I found out the 2GB Ram card plugs right in where the 1GB is, bought one on Ebay for $6. That should help.
Nickle and dimeing my way up to the cost of new machine. Seems to be my MO. At least the battery seems to be strong.
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moneypitfeeder
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# Posted: 20 Aug 2019 17:45
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$22 bucks still isn't bad for a "new to you" computer! At least the ad blocking apps are free if you go that route, congrats on getting it running, and I hope it works out for you!
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rocguy
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# Posted: 21 Aug 2019 02:30 - Edited by: rocguy
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They are a great little laptop the Asus 12V Eepc, 7inch screen from memory, I've still got mine but was having a few issues, I now use a slightly later Eepc, (circa 2015) yep 18V and a goofy square power plug which is hard to find to suit straight DC charging.
Having the expandable SD card is why I initial bought the first one. I like to store everything on the SD, not the computer and have successively moved all my files from old to new(ish).
Good to see you have it operating.
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paulz
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# Posted: 25 Aug 2019 23:07 - Edited by: paulz
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I got my 2gb RAM in the mail, popped right in but didn't help much. Then I read that Windows 7 really doesn't work that well on 2gb, which is odd because my desktop works great on it. Then I read that Windows 10 is less of a resource hog than 7, so I downloaded the upgrade, which was free. It's working fairly well now, I can open several windows in Chrome but still no speed demon. There are tweaks that can be done to 10 that I will play around with. At least I can bring it along with me to the cabin tomorrow and have an excuse for not getting anything done. 
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paulz
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# Posted: 7 Sep 2019 21:54 - Edited by: paulz
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Continued saga:
Tried all the Windows 10 tweaks I could find but still very slow and occasional lockup. Decided to try Justinbowser's advice above and look into Ubuntu. Loaded latest version onto the USB thing only to find out that is 64 bit. Apparently having 32 bit is like driving a Model T now. I then found a 32 bit Linux OS called Bodhi that says its the cat's meow for old pcs. Downloaded that but that install stopped needing some files and what not, over my head. Getting tired of this so tried to fall back to Windows. Well that didn't load anymore, now missing DLL something. Went to bed.
Got up next day, retrieved the Asus from the trash can and found a 32 bit version of Ubuntu. Downloaded that and to my surprise it loaded quickly and without a hitch. Firefox came with it and I'm surfing at a good pace, and streaming video. I was apprehensive about learing a new operating system but I gotta say it's very user friendly. So thanks Justin for the suggestion!
-sent from my 10 year old 32 bit 12vdc pc
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paulz
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# Posted: 19 Sep 2019 11:20 - Edited by: paulz
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Really getting good use out of this old Asus at the cabin, my little nickle and dimeing plus time spent getting it working has paid off. The Ubuntu operating system is really, really nice. I don't know the back story to it but I think I like it better than Windows. Does all the same stuff, seems more user friendly, and of course runs on the old junk. Hasn't crashed once. Do wonder about spyware, virus and such but haven't noticed anything so far. I'm sure there are programs for that.
The Asus is still slower than a modern version but hey, so am I. And at 12vdc I keep it plugged into my cabin power and it's so light I can grab it with one hand. My big 19v two handed full size laptop (that I had to bring home to charge) is just sitting, but it's there if I have to do some serious work. As handy as Android is, I'm lousy at touch screens (yes I know they have keyboards) and I just find them not as user friendly for web surfing. We do stream video (Sling) on Kindle Fires though.
Yes I know off grid and computers, dichotomy..
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moneypitfeeder
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# Posted: 20 Sep 2019 18:26
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That's great! I've never heard of "Ubuntu" so that's good info to keep in my back pocket. I think the one good thing about the anti-virus stuff is that (IMO) hackers/spammers usually go for the best bang for the buck and Windows is still one of the most widely used platforms, hence many malware and viruses targeted to Windows-based systems.
(https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/net-antivirus.html.en)
But there are plenty out there that you can use if you'd like (https://www.maketecheasier.com/ubuntu-antivirus-programs/)
And don't feel bad, I google from my phone at the cabin too (if I had a 12v laptop, I'd be taking it up there)!
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justincasei812
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# Posted: 26 Sep 2019 12:32 - Edited by: justincasei812
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I just looked to see if you could expand the RAM on that laptop and you can. You can go from the whopping 1GB to 2GB. Think about it this way at least you can double the RAM and it should run a little better.
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paulz
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# Posted: 26 Sep 2019 14:03
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I did, see above. $8 and it slipped right in. Sitting out front of my cabin right now using it. Just finished putting up a 20' 4x18 beam, taking a break. I think this thing has a camera, let me see..
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justincasei812
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# Posted: 1 Oct 2019 09:38
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Awesome. I'm horrible at reading things thoroughly and much better at skimming through posts.
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paulz
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# Posted: 21 May 2020 10:11 - Edited by: paulz
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I've just upgraded.. I still love the Asus but even with the tweaking it's limited, won't play video etc..
And I learned the Samsung Chromebooks are 12v, so I got one, 2019 model, fast..
It didn't come with a car charger, and the drawing of one in the manual shows an 'auto adapter' box in the cord between the lighter plug and input plug. The chargers shown on a shopping search don't have it. Im guessing I can just hook it to 12v like I do the Asus but thought I'd ask. Maybe it's just a fuse box?
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waldenite
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# Posted: 27 May 2020 16:10
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Get a buck-boost converter for about $5, and you can convert your 12VDC to the 18VDC. Same goes for charging power tools as well. Chromebooks are good, but the Pinebooks are better in that you're not tied to the Chrome environment. It's a standard plug for DC inputs, so you just get the same size plug as you have on your AC adaptor. The thing you need to worry about is the ripple voltage on the input for sensitive electronics, it has to be a clean supply.
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paulz
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# Posted: 27 May 2020 16:39
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Thanks for replying. Well have the Samsung 12v unit now. I cut the cord off the 110 adapter and hooked it to a car battery, will not charge. Wired it back up, plugged it into an inverter hooked the car battery, charges. Measured the output at the adapter, 12.1vdc. For some reason it won't work straight off the car battery.
Just read the new Samsung Chromebooks (mine is a 2019) charge off USB. Wish I had known..
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waldenite
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# Posted: 29 May 2020 00:32 - Edited by: waldenite
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The inverter will get the job done, but it's a bit inelegant as you are going from 12VDC to 110AC to 12VDC currently. Did you attach the AC line input to the power supply to the car battery, or did you cut the cable at the 12VDC output of the power supply? If you cut the cable between the wall plug and the brick, you will get no power as there is a transformer in there which will only pass AC. I would recommend you get a bit of wire, a DC jack, and optionally a Buck-Boost or a Buck converter, to transform the ~12VDC battery voltage to 18VDC to use with your other laptop. Hook the car battery to the input, the plug to the output, and tune the converter for 18V. Barring that, simply one end of the wire to the battery terminal, and the other to the correct DC plug terminal.
You can do the same with a USB cord you have lying around if you upgrade to a Chromebook, but it shouldn't be necessary for what you want to do, none of those machines pull enough amps to tax a lead-acid battery in the slightest.
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