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AZlife
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# Posted: 5 Mar 2020 03:33
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I’d like to get feedback on my toilet dilemma. I bought a property in Apache County, AZ. The county has a bunch of rules and permitting for off grid toilet setups. I knew this before I bought the land. There are a number of options available. Under “Intent to Discharge,” the county has a type 4 general aquifer permit which covers the following: Septic tank/conventional, composting, pressure distribution, gravel-less trench, Wisconsin mound, engineered pad system, sewage vault, and cap system (Apache County Intent to Discharge) The septic tank option is a $300 permit fee. The others are a $550 permit fee. They all require a licensed person to come out and test the soil for an additional $300-600. If using one of these systems, you have to include this with the building permit for the home.

The state of Arizona allows automatically permitted toilets in its own code (Arizona Allowable Toilet Setups without Permit Request). It says: “A person may discharge under a Type 1 General Permit without submitting a Notice of Intent to Discharge….A 1.08 General Permit allows for any earth pit privy, fixed or transportable chemical toilet, incinerator toilet or privy, or pail or can-type privy if allowed by a county health or environmental department under A.R.S. Title 36 or a delegation agreement under A.R.S. § 49-107.”

This could be interpreted to mean that state law overrides county law. But the county law doesn’t include these toilets in its own permitting list. It would seem to me that the state is saying that it allows those toilets listed in the previous paragraph. I suppose the county could say that they are special and don’t like the state approved ones. I do like the incinerating type but this will be a solar powered tiny home. What do you think?

Nate R
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# Posted: 5 Mar 2020 08:12
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I think it sounds like the state code is OK with those types of toilets, but ONLY if the county agrees: "..if allowed by a county health or environmental department under A.R.S. Title 36 or a delegation agreement"

Brettny
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# Posted: 5 Mar 2020 08:15
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Why don't you ask the county/town building dept? There going to be the one who issue the permit or hand you the violation.

ICC
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# Posted: 5 Mar 2020 09:27
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Quoting: Brettny
Why don't you ask the county/town building dept? There going to be the one who issue the permit or hand you the violation.


exactly.

mj1angier
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# Posted: 5 Mar 2020 11:14
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Also check to see if they have rules about amount of acres putting you under state rule. In NC if lot is over 10 ac. state rules apply. That's why most lots are 10.10+ ac, lol

AZlife
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# Posted: 5 Mar 2020 14:09
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Thanks for the replies. I contacted the county. They said that the state allows them to decide what the county wants. They said they disregard the state law and only use the county law.

ICC
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# Posted: 5 Mar 2020 14:26
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There ya' go.

redneckpaul
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# Posted: 5 Mar 2020 21:28
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Put up a "storage shed" and put whatever toilet you want in it. Only you have to know.

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