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Anonymous
# Posted: 27 Sep 2010 16:26
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I found my sign at Michaels that big crafty store. I was looking around while the wife was shopping.

socha
# Posted: 6 Oct 2010 00:17
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this is a cool security system:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0XyxiDgfpY

toyota_mdt_tech
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# Posted: 6 Oct 2010 09:13
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Quoting: steveqvs
$400 or so for the gear and $30-50 a month for the service


No, its only $14.95 a month, and to maintain the account, but suspend the service, $8.95 a month.

(regarding the online game camera monitoring service)

steveqvs
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# Posted: 6 Oct 2010 10:02 - Edited by: steveqvs
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Well I don't want to argue but if you can put up a link to that $14.95

Moutarie is much more. Even their cheap pay as you go.

Pay As You Go Plans


Plan Cost Service Details
Tracker $39.99 30 Days or 200 medium resolution pictures*
Hunter $49.99 30 Days or 400 medium resolution pictures*
Season Pass $34.99/month for 4 months
$44.99/month for 4 months Four (4) consecutive months of
either Tracker or Hunter plan


*Note: Month ends after 30 days OR data is full, whichever

toyota_mdt_tech
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# Posted: 6 Oct 2010 21:07
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Quoting: steveqvs
Well I don't want to argue but if you can put up a link to that $14.95

Moutarie is much more. Even their cheap pay as you go.


https://www.smartscouter.com/ssPurchaseWirelessPlan.aspx

steveqvs
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# Posted: 6 Oct 2010 22:23
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Thanks TmTech,
those rates are much better... but did you see thd cam prices. I guess i am too cheap. Just bought another cheap game cam and set it up. Hope thats enough.

thanks!

toyota_mdt_tech
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# Posted: 7 Oct 2010 09:18
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I did see the spendy cameras. Are you using yours for security? I need to do a powersource as I cant visit mine often enough to change batteries. I need a solar cell etc. I have been looking into the same set up. That price was the best I could find so far (for service) wish I could use my own camera. I'll keep searching too.

Rick

Kithera
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# Posted: 7 Oct 2010 10:12
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So, let me get this right...

For $15 a month (or much more), they put a camera on your property, and periodically publish a picture to a private internet site. All of this using a cellular basic internet connection which the user needs to purchase and maintain separately.

Sounds at best a wasteful service. Since you're buying the data plan anyway, just get one of the free with contract laptops most carriers have, attach a camera, and upload to flickr or some such thing. There are tones of free photo hosting websites, and a lot of auto upload programs. Don't waste month on this. A bit of solar and your're good to go.

hattie
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# Posted: 7 Oct 2010 12:33
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hmmm....I'm wondering what you would do if you don't have cell service at your cabin. I mean, most cabins are in remote areas, right? I live in a small town and we don't have cell service here, so I'm sure many remote cabin locations wouldn't have cell service and probably not internet either. Just a thought. I agree with Kithera - seems wasteful to me.

Sadly, if someone wants to rob you, they're going to rob you no matter what you do.

Kithera
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# Posted: 7 Oct 2010 14:17
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Without some level of internet (even satellite or old school dial up would work for this), you'll have to cache locally on a HD, and hope the perp didn't take the camera too.

toyota_mdt_tech
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# Posted: 7 Oct 2010 16:36
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My cabin is remote, but the elevation gives me 5 bars of cell and wireless internet no problems. I have great folks around me, no way in without driving past my watchdog neighbor. Never had an issue yet.

Gary O
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# Posted: 7 Oct 2010 18:41 - Edited by: Gary O
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Quoting: hattie
Sadly, if someone wants to rob you, they're going to rob you no matter what you do.


So true.
Once, years ago, living in town, we visited a property we had by a lake. Upon our return to town we found our place ransacked and all the electronics, my guns, my coin collection, and my wife's jewelry were gone.
I just walked around the house, looking at places where things were, then turned the lazy boy upright and sat, flicking the remote at the empty spot in the entertainment center.
I had a mind to ask the next door neighbors (very nice, well meaning people) but after finding out they just watched it all happen, I held back, since my blood was boiling over, and many emotions were washing over me.
Being robbed is a form of violation that gives one the urge to retaliate.
One perp was caught, and I'm still getting a monthly restitution check for $17.50 (when the slack jawed troglodite is working).

Grainy vids of a break in is just poor entertainment, in my opine.

Watchdog neighbors are priceless.

tommy
# Posted: 8 Oct 2010 23:06
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so it can text message you when the door opens? Is it hard to setup? Has anyone bought one of these????

tommy
# Posted: 8 Oct 2010 23:06
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Quoting: socha
this is a cool security system:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0XyxiDgfpY


so it can text message you when the door opens? Is it hard to setup? Has anyone bought one of these????

ol_slim
# Posted: 11 Nov 2010 10:20
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lawnjocky
I have a cabin in New Mexico, too, five miles from pavement, and have had numerous break-ins. I'm trying different ideas on keeping people out, but so far haven't been successful. My cabin differs from yours in that it is visible from five4 miles away (and from outer space).
If I come up with something to share, I will. One thing that slowed it down a bunch was a little plastic Jesus I hung above the door knob. Then I was burglarized by atheists!
Thanks all for the ideas.
Slim Randles

toyota_mdt_tech
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# Posted: 11 Nov 2010 10:38
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They have game cameras that can be concealed in a fake rock.

pheasantplucker
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# Posted: 12 Nov 2010 22:38
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Sorry to hear of your misfortune. Thieves do, indeed, suck. We have been fortunate thus far. We have many neighbors who don't hesitate to approach strangers when they see them on our property if we're not home. I too have installed an electrical alarm system. I also employ a padlock, and have installed steel plates on the interior of the door to make "kicking in" the door, an exhaustive endeavor. I also purposely stripped the heads on all the screws that hold the hasp for the padlock. If a person breaks into my basement, the heavy door at the top of the stairs has been reinforced, and it is keyed differently on both sides of the door. Course, as my neighbor pointed out..."I hope you know, all that effort you put forth, you've only managed to keep the honest people out!"

hattie
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# Posted: 12 Nov 2010 23:32
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You could always "pack" one of these.
gun_bag.jpg
gun_bag.jpg


Anonymous
# Posted: 30 Nov 2010 11:34
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We have a piece of land not fair from a small town in Western MD. It is a hike from the road or any 4 wheel drive vehicle can access it. We had a trailer up there and camoflauged it as best we could. After a few years of it being safe we found it destroyed inside and out. People had used rocks to smash the door, windows, and roof.

Now we have a simple 2x4 structure that we use to put a tarp up in case of rain. Two of the legs of this structre were broken in half- which must have taken quite a bit of effort (no saw used.) Then a month later the tarp was stolen (shouldnt have left that up there.)

I am not planning on building a small stone cabin approx 20ft x 12ft on the property. I am going for the "Build a fortress" approach. 1 foot think stone walls and only long skinny basement windows (approx 8inx 16in.)

Is there any way to make the roof/door fireproof? I am affraid if someone cannot brake in they will try to destroy it any way possible

MikeOnBike
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# Posted: 30 Nov 2010 13:48
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Quoting: Anonymous
After a few years of it being safe we found it destroyed inside and out.


Have you gated the road? Next install a well-hidden trail-cam up the road or at your cabin site. Maybe you can get a license plate if someone passes your gate. I have a friend with a remote property. Rather than use the a trail-cam he put up a sign at the gate that said "Smile, you're on trail-cam." He has had no more problems.

MtnDon
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# Posted: 30 Nov 2010 15:02
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I like cameras. At least if someone does damage you may get useful pictures that the sheriff can use. I think it's a good idea to have one (cheap or broken) in a spot where it can be seen, as a decoy. Then one or more hidden or camouflaged.

Do a web search for security roller shades. They can be used to armor the doors and windows.

Fireproof a roof by using metal roofing and cement board for soffit and fascia.

Unfortunately someone set on doing damage when the place is vacant is hard to stop.

hattie
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# Posted: 30 Nov 2010 17:08
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What a world we live in...just reading here about building a fortress, decoy cameras, security window rollers, security cameras. It all sounds pretty depressing to me. *sigh*

bobrok
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# Posted: 30 Nov 2010 19:47 - Edited by: bobrok
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I found a web site a couple of years ago (since taken down) where a guy had a camera mounted on a pole pointed to his cabin, and some sort of a combination involving a ham radio/cellular relay system that put a live view onto a personal home page on the internet. He also had a live camera inside pointing towards a large thermometer. All of this was powered by a solar panel/battery pack up on the pole.

fasenuff
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# Posted: 1 Dec 2010 11:00
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I am fortunate in having a neighbor who stops everyone and asks who they are and what they are doing. Also at the entrance on the main road two older gals who write down license plate numbers of any vehichle they do not recognize. And I always wear my 9mm on me and many people think I am nuts. Lol. I don't mind that kind of reputation tho because it keeps people away. I do not drive and always walk in and out. No one knows if I am home or not.

I still do worry though and have built places under the cabin in the joists to store anything of real value(guns, laptops, chain saws, etc,.) for when I have to be gone for more than the day. Some one could still come across my place when I am gone and they could be the type to tear the place up. There is a place not far from here that has all the windows broke out and the door kicked in. From the road you can see the walls are torn up and the kitchen is demolished. I have been told it was done by summer folk's kids.

I had the county come by to gps my place so I could get a mail box down at the road. They told me I would have to improve my road so if needed emergency vehichles could get here. But that would also make it easier for vandals and thieves to get here. I may just continue to walk to town to get my mail. Since I do not have visitors and I do not drive I would rather pay someone with 4wheel drive to bring in what I need from time to time. It's a trade of.

TomChum
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# Posted: 14 Jan 2011 14:49 - Edited by: TomChum
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Quoting: hattie
Sadly, if someone wants to rob you, they're going to rob you no matter what you do.


Some will turn away when they see you have made some provisions to protect yourself. But if you do too much then you send the signal that there may be some valuables up that little road. That person will just look at the road for recent vehicle tracks, and make a judgement whether or not anyone is likely to be in there.

I think a photo of who it was, or at least of their vehicles etc, would be worth thousands of words.....

toyota_mdt_tech
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# Posted: 14 Jan 2011 16:06
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Quoting: TomChum
I think a photo of who it was, or at least of their vehicles etc, would be worth thousands of words.....



Answer, hidden cammo game camera. :D

TomChum
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# Posted: 14 Jan 2011 20:26
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Yup that's my next project!
And I hope to get ONLY of pictures of animals or friends or good neighbors....

TomChum
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# Posted: 14 Feb 2011 02:47
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OK I got a game camera - Bushnell TrophyCam. It works pretty good. I am looking forward to photos of critters.

I don't know how useful it would be as a security device, at night. In the daytime its probably OK if hidden well. It might be the first item stolen, and at $180 is not easycome-easygo.

If a trespasser comes into view of the camera (at night) the camera turns on an array of red-colored LEDs, to illuminate the subject. They are not real bright, but in darkness there is NO MISTAKE what's going on when 32 of these illuminate for a couple seconds. They say "Hey! Look over here, I'm a valuable electronic device that has taken several photos of you and will show them to my owner."

Just
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# Posted: 14 Feb 2011 15:41
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in the last 5 years we've lost 1.60 in change a mostly full jar of coffee and a axe,,we my have left the axe in the bush
we leave the door open !!and a guest book on the table in all fairness we don't have much !!

pmichelsen
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# Posted: 14 Feb 2011 17:58
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We hire a local guy to stop by the property once or twice a week and check all of the doors. Plus we made friends with a neighbor who lives up there. Our place is near a small town and we have a land line on the property, one of my buddies and I are planning on installing a few cameras around the property that we will be able to access and move remotely so that we can periodically check on the place our selves too.

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