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Strut
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# Posted: 1 May 2012 23:27
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I've never heard anyone talk about this so I assume it's probably okay to do......also never heard of anyone blowing themselves up this way. Is it dangerous to use a kerosene lamp with all it's fumes in the same room where a wood-stove is in use? All my "people" are city-slickers and don't know what I am talking about!
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MtnDon
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# Posted: 2 May 2012 00:04
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It's fine. Just don't use kerosene to start a fire in the stove. That might explode. 
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dfosson
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# Posted: 2 May 2012 18:43
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I use kerosene oil lamps near my stove and fireplace all the time. The flash point of kerosene is between 37 and 65 °C (100 and 150 °F), and its autoignition temperature is 220 °C (428 °F). It's not going to explode. It is a fuel so as MtnDon states, just don't pour it into the stove or use it to start a fire (unless its a brush pile outside).
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TomChum
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# Posted: 2 May 2012 20:53 - Edited by: TomChum
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Oil lamps are not dangerous near woodstoves. The pretty much have to tip over to be dangerous.
If it falls off the table onto the floor it could burn your cabin. Or if you set it too close to the drapes. Or the dog goes apeshit and knocks it to the floor. Open flames with accelerant below don't offer much leeway for the unexpected.
Many people used oil lamps for light, for many years. They were brought up from an early age hearing stories of neighbors losing everything by not treating oil lamps with proper caution. Its my opinion that it's not safe enough to ever "let" your city friends practice and learn "their own fire-safety" with your lamp and your cabin.
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analogmanca
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# Posted: 3 May 2012 02:02 - Edited by: analogmanca
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Kerosene lamps near a stove is not a problem.
I gave up lighting fires in the wood stove with paper, kindleing years ago.
I take a plastic cup pour in two fingers of kerosene (or diesel, or paint thinner) tear off a couple sheets of paper towels,stuff it into the cup, set it in the stove, light, and pile your wood on. No fuss, fire lights up all the time.
What you dont do is use a styrofoam cup, or toss a few ounces into a already burning stove.
I will just add, I agree completely, never trust anyone with lamps in your home, those who do not use them, just dont have the judgement needed, let them learn in their home!
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beachman
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# Posted: 4 May 2012 19:12
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I too use kerosene lamps with a wood fire on as well as have propane lamps burning. dfossen and TomChum are right on - the burning point for lkerosene is very high and it burns slow - but do not spill it near a flame or big trouble. I would not necessarily trust a novice around these lamps. The heat coming off a chimney of a lamp is extreme and items should be kept away from the top. My mother used to light her cigarettes by holding the cigarette over the top of the chimney. I also have a wood/propane stove in our camp that works fine. Sounds like a dangerous combination but if hooked up and used correctly there is no problem.
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larryh
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# Posted: 5 May 2012 13:16
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The lamps are fine, plus many people in the old days kept a small can of kerosene near the wood cookstove to dip a small branch in which they then placed in the stove to get the fire going. I have used a similar technique to start my fires and they work just fine. I think kerosene would only be a problem in a stove is if its already for some reason hot and your trying to restart it quickly, then the oil vaporizes and can cause a small flash over, explosion when the hot metal causes it to ignite as a gas. I often run a pot burner heater and they warn to never admit oil to a hot burner. I have once in a while had the stove to go out before it totally developed the vaporizing stage where it would keep going on its own. That can happen in a cold stove when a draft or other factor causes the flame to go out on you. But one day just recently it went out an before I thought I let in some more oil. When I lowered the match I use on a long flexible stem down to ignite the oil it flashed over and started burning suddenly. Then I realized the pot was still hotter than it should have been before leaving in the oil again. But starting cold you can flood the burner with too much oil and it will not explode or flash over it just will smoke a lot till it heats up and uses the excess fuel to get the air/fuel ratio right. Kerosene basically will not burn readily unless its "wicked" like dropping oil on a carpet. Other wise you can throw a match in a wet pool of oil on a solid floor and it will just go out.
Larry
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evrmc1
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# Posted: 13 May 2012 16:15
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I found a lantern that is solar. You can charge it in the sunlight and it will burn 24 hrs. I got two of them off ebay they work great . $45.00 a pc. includes shipping and the come with solar panel.
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