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rayyy
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# Posted: 24 Jul 2012 12:13
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Wow,my creek has run dry.I can't believe it.I now have started haulling in water for my horses.I hope this is short lived.It's a real pain in the,but any how.we'll be ok for now.I can buy 50 gallons of water at the water treatment plant in town for a quarter,so I can haul 3-55 gallon barrels home with fresh water fo 75 cents.
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larry
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# Posted: 24 Jul 2012 13:18
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no wild blueberries in my part of the world. pond is also low.
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Sustainusfarm
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# Posted: 24 Jul 2012 13:41
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The maple trees we planted 3 yrs ago are all dead...or at least they shed all their leaves to help keep themselves alive!
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countryred
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# Posted: 24 Jul 2012 13:54
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105 here today, in northern Mo. The yard is dead and brown, we have to water every night to save the garden. 30 % chance of rain thursday and then more heat.
The worst part is the crops. Even the good looking corn doesn't have but a few kernals on each cob. 
My folks have a small pond that is super low, and may lose all the fish in it.
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Martian
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# Posted: 24 Jul 2012 18:06
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Here in Chase County, KS its getting bad. Many of the ponds are dry. In the valleys, the bean crop looks green but there are no pods; so its being baled for forage, and on the hillsides, the grasses aren't growing for the cattle. I make my living off the farmers and ranchers. As one said to me the other day, "When it stops raining, I quit spending."
Tom
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bugs
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# Posted: 24 Jul 2012 18:54
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Errr what drought????
I have been watching the news and can not believe the pix of Texas and most of the US...except Minnesota. 
In our area of SK we are in flood watch. Our pond at the shed is an inch from the highest level we have seen and our roads are on the verge of flooding.One more thunderstorm and they will be flooded. Or maybe a few more tornadoes. SK has had more tornadoes in July then we are supposed to get in a year! Next spring could be disastrous.
Strange weather. Still just weather and not climate change.
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OwenChristensen
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# Posted: 24 Jul 2012 19:36
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We're getting quite dry now too. Except for the big downpour, we'd be in the drought too. There should be rain tonight.
Owen
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Martian
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# Posted: 24 Jul 2012 20:25
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Quoting: bugs Still just weather and not climate change.
Are you willing to bet your kids future on this? And, if you're wrong? What do they do then?
Tom
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Rob_O
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# Posted: 24 Jul 2012 21:24
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Quoting: Martian Are you willing to bet your kids future on this? And, if you're wrong? What do they do then?
Climate change is real, it has been going on for thousands of years.
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TomChum
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# Posted: 24 Jul 2012 21:37
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It was my understanding that with warming, the amount of water in the atmosphere is expected to increase, and fall in the higher latitudes. SK instead of KS, for example.
With the energy companies having huge cash (incomprehensible amounts) it's already impossible for any regular guy to know what is truth and what is marketing.
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bugs
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# Posted: 24 Jul 2012 22:05
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Martian/Tom, I don't have kids.
Weather is measured in a few months/years/decades. Short term. Climate is based on measures of many, many decades to 100's and 1000's of years. Long term.
And yes I DO know that there is human created climate change occurring because I study it and its effects as well as natural occurring climate change and how it will affect habitats and various communities (plant, animal, invertebrate, pest, crops) in the past, post glacial and in the future.
As Rob O points out there in his attached graph there were cold periods and hot periods in the past and there will be the same in the future so don't pack up your heaters just yet nor your ac's.
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Martian
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# Posted: 25 Jul 2012 08:06
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Quoting: bugs yes I DO know that there is human created climate change occurring because I study it
Its good to know that you are keeping an eye on things. I misinterpreted your earlier statement.
So, to paraphrase, would it be correct to say, "One year (or several) does not a climate make, but a climate is made one year at a time."
Tom
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Sustainusfarm
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# Posted: 25 Jul 2012 16:11
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I think it is facinating stuff no matter how you look at it! I was a horticulturalist for 20 yrs prior to being a real estate agent...Since 1987 ,when I started really focusing on plants and their growning habits, I have noticed in the area of southern WI, I have been steadily able to grow more and more non hardy plants. I have things in my garden now that 20 yrs ago I would have had to grow south of central Illinois!
For example: Crepe Myrtle, Weeping Atlantic Cedar, various bulbs that I would normally dig up each winter and store indoors( they now stay in the ground), a few tropical plants I can now leave in their pots until almost Christmas ( jasmine, citrus, palms). Its amazing to me ...but I know this is just another one of the earths flucuations..and I'm not so sure we caused it?! I'm sure we have caused a small spike in the graph but some of those spikes up and down occurred in some pretty short time periods when we were not industrialized.....Very interesting isn't it!
I cant even imagine what I will be able to grow here in the next 20 yrs??!! Palms and citrus year round?? I can hardly wait!!! 
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rayyy
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# Posted: 26 Jul 2012 19:05
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woooweee we got a little rain last night but it didnt rain at all today like they say it was suspose to be.got a little trickle flowing down through now.Good enough for us.Thank God,them horses can really drink a lot of water!To our Texas friends who have got to much water,it's crazy,isn't it.If we could just figure out how to send those rain clouds around to where we need them the most.We'd start by sending them to Denver and all the place where the brush fires are raging.Mother Nature,what's you problem???
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trollbridge
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# Posted: 27 Jul 2012 11:33 - Edited by: trollbridge
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Up North we built a (hopefully) pond at the cabin. We did this to have a place for the overabundance of rain we've had to go somewhere away from the cabin. Now that we are waiting to see if it will fill and hold water we won't get much rain...it's just the way it is for us.
At our house it is not bad. We have had enough rain to keep things going...unlike so much of the rest of the state. I can't complain.
For all you suffering from the drought I hope you see some measurable relief soon. Wasn't it just last year that Texas was in a very deep drought?
Rising food prices will be affecting all of us no matter where we live.
Oh and one last thing....thank you for the weather/climate lesson above. I think this is something that confuses many people...nice to see it clearly explained
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Force_Multiplier
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# Posted: 29 Jul 2012 08:53
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here in Oklahoma, we're not soaked, but we're wetter than we were last year
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tsvoyager
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# Posted: 9 Aug 2012 12:29
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Here in Southern Wi is has been very dry for the last year. I'm glad I got out of the lawn care business in June. It sucks to be working a factory job again but the bills are getting paid!Now maybe I can afford to sock away some $$ so I can start my build next year.
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AYP1909
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# Posted: 9 Aug 2012 13:20
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Quoting: bugs Errr what drought????
In my area of Washington State we have experienced 400% of average rainfall for the past month.
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rayyy
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# Posted: 9 Aug 2012 15:52
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Hummm,what's up with that?The rain cloud's seem to be stuck over you,AYP?Were withering away here in WNY.Were,like,5 inches under the average rain fall.The price of corn will sky rocket again.I think it would be cheaper if I could just get my horses to eat a bucket of dollar bills instead.lol.
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trollbridge
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# Posted: 9 Aug 2012 17:28 - Edited by: trollbridge
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We just got one major gully washer of a rain today...wish I could have sent it where it was more needed and it is currently 59 degrees.
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hattie
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# Posted: 9 Aug 2012 21:57
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The drought will be affecting all of us pretty soon. Food prices are predicted to go up substantially. Feed prices will go up which will mean meat prices up too. Flour is supposed to go up as well. I'm going to stockpile flour just in case and keep the freezer well stocked too.
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rayyy
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# Posted: 10 Aug 2012 18:03
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Geez,I just spent 13 dollars for a bag of horse feed,13 DOLLARS!That's insane.Should be half that price.And Mother Nature???She bakes us alive for two weeks streight then dumps 3 inches of rain on us inside of 1/2 an hour.This is deffinitely a bad year for our local crops.Our corn prices shot up a few years ago when they built a Ethonal plant near by,now prices will double again.I think I'm gonna try dumping some molases on a wheele barrel full of one dollar bills for the horses to eat.It would be a lot cheaper!
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Seto
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# Posted: 13 Aug 2012 08:43
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I rely on rain for most of my water, my barrels ran dry and my Coworkers started the phrase "the office smells like Seto" very happy to get some rain after 3 weeks, i was using the same bath water 4 times and was hauling buckets from the river to keep my crops alive.
i dug a deep well in the swamp, last year there was surface water year round and figured the only way i could run dry was if we got a drought unlike anything seen in 100 years, i was so proud of hand digging that well and expected it to be very effective. then we got a drought unlike anything seen in 100 years and it ran dry and i been digging deeper as i can, but 10' down in a swamp and no water!?
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trollbridge
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# Posted: 13 Aug 2012 10:41
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Quoting: Seto "the office smells like Seto"
LOL! That's not good!!!!
You've had the 100 year drought and up near our cabin was the 100 year flood! CRAZY! Hope your swamp can refill itself...I'm having visions of "Shrek" running through my head!
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Dillio187
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# Posted: 13 Aug 2012 10:55
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I mowed the lawn last night at my 'city' house wearing a dust mask. Getting kind of dry here, but nothing like down south.
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trollbridge
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# Posted: 13 Aug 2012 11:12
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We are still okay here...a tad dry maybe in our yard but that is okay cause that means the grass doesn't need mowing as often!! The crops still look good for the farmers around here.
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Seto
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# Posted: 13 Aug 2012 11:40
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we also had over a dozen forest fires in the county, and we are so used to rain here that the mountains have the nickname of "the abspestos forest" its usually so wet in the Adirondacks that nothing burns, but this year....
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Rob_O
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# Posted: 13 Aug 2012 19:38
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My place was a dustbowl this weekend. We got something like .1" of rain today and another round is forecast for Thursday night.
Unfortunately, it's too little too late for the farmers and food costs are going to go up up up like hattie said
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trollbridge
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# Posted: 13 Aug 2012 20:40
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Quoting: Rob_O food costs are going to go up up up like hattie said
add to that the cost of transporting it with the high gas prices and UGH...plan on going broke!
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Dillio187
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# Posted: 14 Aug 2012 08:57
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like there was any hope for the economy to recover anyways. 
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