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Oilersfan
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# Posted: 23 Jan 2013 12:48
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First I would like to say this is an amazing forum with an amazing amount of information for those DIY'ers that that take pride in building a cabin on their little piece of paradise. The amount of information makes my headspinning which is why I thought I might as well enlist some specific information from the good people on this site.
So far I have made a couple decisions on our cabin...
- I am building a 12x16 cabin with loft and a 6' deck on the frontside
- I would like to use 4' deep concrete piles to get to the below the frost. I am building in the canadian rockies where the frost goes down at least 4ft. I have clay below so it is certainly frost susceptable. I have reviewed with my geotech buddy and he thinks this will be ok for the intended use of the cabin and the fact we aren't hooking up any services...an inch of heave isn't really going to be a big deal.
The big question I am grapling with is whether or not to go with a single pitch roof or a peaked roof. The simple answer is the peaked roof due to snowload but I like the look and interior feel of the cabins I have reviewed with the single pitch roof. The snow load based on the calculator I have used is about 40psf. The roof slope would likely be 3:12...so I have a 9' back wall and 12' front wall with tin roofing, and sheathing. Is it doable to use 2x10s on 16 OC? Online calculations tell me that it is fine but the pitch of the roof is pretty low so I am a bit worried. I know the simple answer is peaked but I am stubborn and like to make life difficult on myself!!
Other prelim info
footings - 8" diameter, 12 footings total spaced under walls and deck
beam - 2 - 2x10s nailed together sitting on top of the footings (3 beams)
joist - 2x8s @ 16" OC (12' span)
walls - 2x6 @ 16" OC (any issue with the height of the walls?)
loft joist - 2x10 @ 16" OC...would like 2x8s if possible
roof - 2x10 @ 16" OC with 12" overhangs
Of course I can't find plans for a structure like the one I am thinking so I am kinda freewheeling based on the infomation I have grabbed from online. Probably not the most reliable design source!
Any comments or assistance would be greatly appreciated. Oh I should say there is no building resrictions or permits required but I would still like to build something that is robust and will stand the test of time.
Thanks,
Canadian Cabin Dreamer
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bobbotron
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# Posted: 23 Jan 2013 12:56
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I'd say skip the loft.... I build a cabin with a loft earlier this year, it's a big hassle and more air to heat on our chilly canadian winters!
Using 2x10s for rafters is a good call, for insulation!
Low slope is so nice for building. I built a 7x14 shed with a 3:12 roof, it's about 100x nicer to work on than the 12:12 roof on my cabin.
Sorry I don't have more time to post, just my 2 cents! Sounds like you're on the right path. Read a lot of books on framing and code books, and you'll get there.  It helps if you have a friend that's done framing.
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silverwaterlady
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# Posted: 23 Jan 2013 13:01
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How is it possible that there are no building permits required?
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Oilersfan
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# Posted: 23 Jan 2013 13:24
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I haven't been able to locate much in the way of codes or standards for the area. Our lot is in no mans land so no need for a permit. Maybe I can talk to the local town development office and see if they would review my plans anyways.
If I removed the loft my wife would likely make me stay in the city so I think the loft is mandatory
Thanks for the comments bobbotron
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DungeonX
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# Posted: 23 Jan 2013 14:56 - Edited by: DungeonX
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laminate some plywood in between the 2x10 for your beams nail and glue them together.
sps or spsps
s= stud
p= plywood
I built mine with 2x8 and 3/4 inch plywood giving me beams that were 7.5" x 6" three layers of studs and two plywood
My build is much the same as you are describing. Unorganized township with heavy clay soils. May I ask where you are building?
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Oilersfan
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# Posted: 23 Jan 2013 15:06
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We are building north of Golden, BC. We bought a nice little 2 acre lot that was a firesale. Last owner bought in 2008 at the height of the market.
Thanks for the advice on the beam DungeonX. How do you like your cabin setup? Any lessons learned?
*yes unfortunately I am an Edmonton Oilers fan.
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silverwaterlady
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# Posted: 23 Jan 2013 22:43
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Our cabin is in Canada in the bush in a unorganized township and we needed permits to build.
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Oilersfan
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# Posted: 24 Jan 2013 16:41
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I had more than one source confirm that no building permit is required including the realitor that sold us the land. He was going to see if the town would provide a letter in writing but I am 99.9% sure we are fine.
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razmichael
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# Posted: 24 Jan 2013 19:52
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This has come up in numerous threads - the only way to know is to ask. Rules are different across Canada and can vary from one side of the road to the other. In addition, "building permits" can run from the full process to very cheap and easy. We built this fall in Quebec where the permit cost $50 and 10 minutes to obtain. No building inspection during the process and the main concern was only that I was far enough away from the shore. I know if I was closer to the big city by 20 km things would have been very different.
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silverwaterlady
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# Posted: 24 Jan 2013 20:41
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Our permit was easy and cheap as well.We had to submit a drawing and pay about $250.00. It took about two weeks to get approved.
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