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Smawgunner
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# Posted: 5 Nov 2013 18:49
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I got a quote from AEP to run electric to our cabin. The is a pole about 150 yards away. I'll need them to put in another pole and transformer. The quote was 5000.00+ Has anyone ran new service and was it that expensive? I'm in ohio.
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Gregjman
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# Posted: 5 Nov 2013 18:56
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12$/foot was the rough estimate from my provider. Wisconsin.
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VC_fan
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# Posted: 5 Nov 2013 19:07
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Our place is in Vinton County and serviced by AEP. I've heard that AEP gives a $5000 credit if you're also installing an approved septic and well. And I've heard that that's typically enough to get power installed for free if it's within about 500'. I've never been interested enough to verify that and we're way over 500' from power. So is the $5000 number before the credit (assuming it still exists)?
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Smawgunner
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# Posted: 5 Nov 2013 19:56
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Quoting: Gregjman 12$/foot was the rough estimate from my provider. Wisconsin.
Wow...I didn't realize it was that %@#! expensive to run electric. 5000 would by one heck of an off grid solar system but I'm totally boxed in by trees and foothills. I may just have to bite the bullet. Thanks guys.
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Gregjman
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# Posted: 5 Nov 2013 20:12
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My quote was for buried cable to my socket.
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bldginsp
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# Posted: 6 Nov 2013 07:53 - Edited by: bldginsp
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$21 a foot in California. I'm 2300 feet or more from the nearest high voltage line. Would be close to $50000 to connect to my place, except that they have a 50% option here, which means that if I choose that option, I pay half but lose all ownership rights to the wire. If I pay full price, I own rights to the wire, and any other person that wants to tap into it has to deal with me. But I'm not coming up with $50000, for sure.
$5000 is a lot, but I wonder how much it increases the value of your property. Not that you plan to sell, but it's nice to know.
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TheWildMan
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# Posted: 6 Nov 2013 08:12
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I knew a guy with a camp 1/2 mile from the nearest line (on a dirt road adjacent to a huge tract of state land. they quoted him $120,000 to run power to it. this was years ago before solar was available and common. he sold the camp for $1000, had he waited 15 more years he could have put in solar or wind. a good power pole around here is $4000 to $5000 to buy (has to be a hard pine of verneer quality and treated to prevent rotting).
my cabin is too far off the road and the lines are not even along the road, they run about 150 feet on the other side. to get grid power at my place I would have spent $18,000. more than it cost to build my cabin and buy the land. I lived without any significant power for the first year and a half and relied on kerosene lanterns and candles. my solar power was a tiny 30 watt array charging a single battery to provide some electric. all in all my current array cost less than $2000 to build. not bothering with the grid I don't have to have approved or inspected electric (they won't hook up power unless you meet their standards) and don't have to pay monthly bills or deal with the bull from the new smart meters.
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TheWildMan
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# Posted: 6 Nov 2013 08:12
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and when the power goes out on the grid from any random winter storm, only me and the Amish don't know about it.
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Smawgunner
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# Posted: 6 Nov 2013 11:24
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Good info WildMan. I may have to come up with a Plan C.
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PatrickH
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# Posted: 6 Nov 2013 12:35
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We paid 1000 to have our city line buried maybe 100ft the Wisconsin place we payed the initial estimate for us it was 1600.00 after the 500.oo credit they put in transformer and buried the line 200+ feet (it was not a strait shot) there is a different price for improved and not improved lots the price breakdown was not clear at all I don't know how much per foot they charged after it was hooked up they sent us a check back for 400.00 . 5k is not unreasonable for grid power we plan on tying some solar into this also to spin the meter back when we are not there every thing costs but when I want to pull some big draws I know the power will be there and I don't have to screw around with generators and batteries all the time if it was my place I would pay the money
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MtnDon
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# Posted: 6 Nov 2013 13:16
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I agree with grid tie as long as the utility offers a good plan where they pay you above the regular rate charged for buying power from them. Our power company does that. The first tier we buy at is around 0.09 per kWh. They pay us 0.13 per kWh.
And $5K is not bad for rural power. We had a quote of $55K to the proiperty line. Then we still had a quarter mile to go.
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SE Ohio
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# Posted: 6 Nov 2013 14:27
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Recent quote in Vinton Co Ohio was $17,000 to run about 1/4 mile for the group of properties in my cabin "neighborhood" (several properties). We would need to dig the trench down our shared access road for the cable. Additional runs to the cabins from main line would be extra. As a group we decided to stay off grid.
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silverwaterlady
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# Posted: 6 Nov 2013 18:29
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Trade ya. For $250,000.00 we can have power at our camp
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beachman
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# Posted: 7 Nov 2013 10:17
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I don't know about some of you out there, but I did have the opportunity several years ago to bring power to our place via undeerwater cable at a pretty good price. I turned it down as there were too many issues - high rates, temporary use, more bills, a bigger break-in target with perceived electronics, and I do not want TV, phone or internet - just peace and quiet. Now it would exceed $100k. I will probably go for a solar quote of about $3,000 to supplement my propane use and run a few luxuries - water pump, etc...
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gersus
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# Posted: 7 Nov 2013 11:19 - Edited by: gersus
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I agree beachman, if we purchase the property we're looking at utilities will be available. Would cost me 1,000 to 2,000 probably depending on where we put our cabin. I'm not sure I want to be on the grid. Just not having that bill every month would be nice, even if its not much. Propane, solar, and a generator for the A/C sounds like a good plan for us. As long as I can get enough sun to reach the panels due to the trees. We're along way from that though.
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gersus
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# Posted: 8 Nov 2013 09:31
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Now that I think about it, back in 1997 I had a local electric coop run service 1/4 mile across a field to where we put a new mobile home. Didn't cost me a dime!  I'll have to check and see if its still that way...
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TheCabinCalls
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# Posted: 8 Nov 2013 09:47
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That seems high...are they trenching, providing wire, etc? Check wire prices and trenching prices...then
See if AEP will put a meter can some place closer to the road. Then you can run the wire yourself. This would make it easier for them to read the meter too.
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justincasei812
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# Posted: 8 Nov 2013 10:02
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I checked into it for my place in Northern Michigan and it was $3 ft. above ground and $6 to be buried. They would have to go through state land, US Forestry land, and Dept. of Fish & Game land to get to my cabin. To many other agencies to go through just for electric, anyone of them could say no and it would stop right there. I would also have to pay $1000 just for to put in the paperwork for them to come out and assess the lay out and if it could be done. Electric would make things a lot quieter (use a generator) and a little easier. but not worth all work/ money just to see if we could get it and we are just over a mile back in the woods.
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Rossman
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# Posted: 9 Nov 2013 21:46
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Quoting: bldginsp except that they have a 50% option here, which means that if I choose that option, I pay half but lose all ownership rights to the wire. If I pay full price, I own rights to the wire, and any other person that wants to tap into it has to deal with me.
This is interesting. Here in Ontario when I talked to Ontario Hydro, they wanted $7,000 just to provide a system connection "design".
After which you then can figure out how much it would cost to have the design implemented...it seems crazy to me, that you can't really find out the cost to get hydro, until you are in for seven grand...
Once you have the design you can either pay Hydro to install or get a subcontractor and do it yourself, but in both cases, Hydro retains ownership of everything done :-/
Off-grid solar with propane was a no-brainer decision for us.
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Malamute
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# Posted: 9 Nov 2013 21:49 - Edited by: Malamute
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I think I paid about $5K for about 500ft of buried line and a transformer, then I had to run the line to the structure myself, which was maybe 200 ft. That was in about '05. Another place I built they wanted about $5K for about 1200 ft underground. I did a solar system for about $3500. The people that bought it from me sold the solar stuff and had grid power installed, they said they only charged them $3500.
" a good power pole around here is $4000 to $5000 to buy "
Holy Cow!!! Are you serious, just to buy a pole?
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Smawgunner
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# Posted: 10 Nov 2013 17:35
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Quoting: TheCabinCalls That seems high...are they trenching, providing wire, etc? Check wire prices and trenching prices...then See if AEP will put a meter can some place closer to the road. Then you can run the wire yourself. This would make it easier for them to read the meter too.
I thought so too, but it's for above ground. We also thought about what they call "temporary service"..a pole by the road with a meter on it. Except WE have to put the pole in ourselves. They gave us the drawing and specs on what it would have to be. Well I can't sink a pole that has to be out of the ground a min of 15 feet with grounding rods 3 feet in the ground. Where we are, it's extremely rocky terrain. I've got no way to haul a 20 foot pole let alone stand it up and no way to drill through rock (if needed). Looks like it's propane for me!
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