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chrisser
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# Posted: 2 Mar 2014 14:06
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Planning 12x12 cabin with 2x6 walls and a loft.

The loft will extend 4' over a porch so the total footprint will be 12x16 with the roof peak running the 16' length.

Floor joists over the loft will be on 12" centers. The other 8' of the structure, I plan on using rafter ties in the lower 1/3 of the rafter to give that area more open feel.

Planned on 2x10 rafters at 24" centers. 2x10s so I can insulate later, but right now it will be a 3 season cabin.

Roof will be 7/16 OSB covered in roofing felt with the corrugated metal roof on top of that.

My concern is loft access. The edge of the loft, I'd like a doubled joist for a more solid feel when getting into the loft. It's about the only time that two people could potentially be standing (crouching) over a single joist as one person gets up into/out of the loft with the other person right behind. So, from the edge of the loft to the first rafter tie, if my math is right, would be just over 20".

So if I put a ladder that runs top-to-bottom along the ridge beam, I think it will likely be fine, but I'm considering putting in narrow stair with a short landing - something like this picture:
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As the part above the landing runs along the joist to the loft, it has to fit between that space, and 20" is pretty narrow.

So I'm wondering if I can space one set of rafters farther apart - maybe 30" or 32" and then evenly space the remaining rafters towards the back of the structure. I realize it will complicate the roof sheeting, but I could live with that for the easier access.

About the only problem I can see is the metal roof and roof sheathing not being able to adequately span the larger gap in a snow load situation. I could bridge the rafters with 2x4s every maybe 24" to alleviate that If necessary.

Just doing the math in my head with 32" to make the numbers round, that would give me, from front to back, 24" spacing in the 4 rafter cavities above the loft, then one 32" spaced rafter where the staircase would be, then the last three rafter cavities toward the back would be around 21".

Or, could I just leave the rafter tie off that one rafter and leave the spacing alone? That would give one 48" span without rafter ties, but 24" on all the rafters.

VTweekender
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# Posted: 2 Mar 2014 14:09 - Edited by: VTweekender
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If I am picturing your scenario correctly, with the stairs in the pic the only thing in your way would be one of the rafter ties you plan on.......I would just omit that one rafter tie and use the original rafter spacing plan. Use a small landing at the top of the stairs instead of just going up to the rafters and tying in...support the small landing from underneath down to the floor , like the 4x4 vertical in the pic.

Otherwise, if you really want to go up and tie into the rafters without the landing, then leave out the one rafter tie and block between the rafters and tie into the blocking., instead of moving your spacing.

Just
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# Posted: 2 Mar 2014 18:14
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As I recall those treads were 21 in wide and that seemed to be wide enough to access our loft. [ as I was the original builder ]. it should be OK to fit between your 24 in .rafters and rafter ties loft floor joists .

Don_P
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# Posted: 2 Mar 2014 20:06
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Flop the joist/ties to opposite faces at that point and you'll pick up a little more room, 24-3/4" opening. Since code stairs are installed in a typical floor a tie has been omitted. Technically the heeljoint connection should be beefed up on the adjoining ties to account for the missing one... but back in the real world.

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