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paulz
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# Posted: 20 Dec 2020 08:18
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Guy in my town is giving away all this pipe. Any idea what it is and is used for? I think it's 3". Too thick for regular ABS looks like.
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FishHog
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# Posted: 20 Dec 2020 08:33
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Looks like a heavier sch ABS than your typical plumbing pipe.

Boy you sure find some good stuff.

Nobadays
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# Posted: 20 Dec 2020 09:52 - Edited by: Nobadays
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If it is somewhat flexible it might be a polyethylene.... usually heat welded together. I don't know if there are fittings for it. Usually used for long distance above ground runs. Temporary piping...

paulz
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# Posted: 20 Dec 2020 10:04
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The ad says 'poly pipe' (bottom of photo) and it does look somewhat flexible. Yeah regular ABS couplings won't fit..

It was on CL about a month ago for a buck a stick, I emailed him for diameter, he said 3 inch maybe but would measure. Never got back to me. Now it's free.

I need 100' of 3" ABS for my drain but not going to weld this stuff to save a few bucks.

Thanks

FishHog
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# Posted: 20 Dec 2020 11:23
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if its just for a drain, I bet you could find something very close to the ID of that pipe and use it with a few hose clamps to connect. Might need to warm the end to compress it down. Again if its just a drain, a bit of a leak probably won't matter so you might not even need to clamp it

Nobadays
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# Posted: 20 Dec 2020 11:44
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^^this.... free, drain pipe ?

Popeye
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# Posted: 20 Dec 2020 12:00
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For the price, and the application, a concrete collar at joints would suffice.

Irrigation Guy
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# Posted: 20 Dec 2020 15:36
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Looks like HDPE pipe which needs to be fused. If you want to use for drainage you probably could outside. If it is IPS pipe schedule 40 fittings will fit but you would need some type of epoxy to glue it, PCs glue won’t work. If it is CTS size you would need to fuse it or use brass compression fittings which would be cost prohibitive

Irrigation Guy
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# Posted: 20 Dec 2020 15:38
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You need to get the info off the side of the pipe to be sure

paulz
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# Posted: 20 Dec 2020 16:55
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I'm scheduled for Tuesday..

gcrank1
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# Posted: 20 Dec 2020 22:14
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If it is just for drain pipe there are all kinds of makeshift cheap ways to join it, after all, pioneers made waterways with half round log troughs and think about how bamboo has been used for millennia.

mj1angier
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# Posted: 21 Dec 2020 17:28
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Yeah for drain, I would think this would work:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/40-Pk-Flexible-Fernco-Rubber-Boot-3-PVC-Plastic-Pipe-Connect or-Coupling-Coupler-/231547144569

paulz
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# Posted: 22 Dec 2020 08:33
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Yep, or old radiator hose. Going over there later today.

This guy welds poly pipe with an iron, results look good. Could probably do it in the field.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlcfgEoO1Fw&ab_channel=Koblenzjunge

paulz
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# Posted: 22 Dec 2020 17:14
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Quoting: Irrigation Guy

Looks like HDPE pipe which needs to be fused. If you want to use for drainage you probably could outside. If it is IPS pipe schedule 40 fittings will fit but you would need some type of epoxy to glue it, PCs glue won’t work.


Just got back, he's right down the road*. Really hard to read the writing on the pipe, 4" IPS DR11 Driscolex something. I was going to put it on my rack but they are 30' sticks! About 25. Going back with a trailer tomorrow. He's getting rid of a bunch of pipe and junk, I took a few things in my truck.

* So way back about 8-10 years ago, before I built the cabin, I was driving to the property and noticed some piles of road base, which I was needing, in front of a property a few driveways down. I stopped and met the contractor, told him what I was up to. He said there was an old dozer on the property, a 50 acre spread with very nice house, barns.., the owner was an old guy who was not well, and I was welcome to the dozer. I grabbed it, got it going with a bit of work and have been using it ever since.

The owner died and left the property to his accountant, much to the dismay of his family. That's about all I knew until today, when I met the kid, the son of the accountant, who is trying to clean the place up. The pipe is sitting not 20' from where I picked up the dozer years ago! Small world.
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Irrigation Guy
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# Posted: 22 Dec 2020 17:23
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Nice! IPS will be easier to find fittings to make work without fusing.

Nobadays
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# Posted: 22 Dec 2020 18:13
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Dang man! You were born under the good end of the rainbow!! I'm at the other end..., ain't a da#n thing here! Clean it up for them... heck no telling what other treasures are hiding in the grass!

mj1angier
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# Posted: 23 Dec 2020 10:06
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Heck, I would do it for the double wall pipe alone!

paulz
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# Posted: 23 Dec 2020 10:23
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Well I'm sitting here this morning trying to figure out how to haul 30' lengths. My trailer is only 18'. I could stick build an extension. Or build a rack on the Dodge dually with some 20' sticks and have the pipe hang over.

Got a couple hours to figure it out.

drb777
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# Posted: 23 Dec 2020 11:53
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https://www.hartenergy.com/news/history-pe-pipe-52531
Read about Drisco pipe history above link.
I've used thousands of feet of such HD poly pipe for o&g flowlines for the past 40 years, great stuff. The original orange pipe wasn't resistant to UV light & would become hard and decompose over time when left exposed. But when Phillips Petrol. & Depont developed this product it revolutionized the "fast-pipe" industry.
Interesting side note; 100 years ago my grandfather cast concrete pipe in San Bernardino CA for crop irrigation purposes. Seems horribly inefficient compared to HDPE of the past 50 years.

paulz
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# Posted: 23 Dec 2020 16:22
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You bet I'm gonna read about it, now that I officially have some..

Phew, that was the craziest thing I have towed in here. These suckers are 40'! And about as stiff as a wet noodle, which is actually perfect for my project. I extended my trailer this morning planning on 30 footer. Took some doing but got the first half of them here. Going back later for the rest, should go easier. Like I said, they are literally 1/2 mile away, I went about 25 mph. Zero tongue weight.

Wonder how much these these are worth? If I'm saving a hundred bucks I'll kick my own ass. Well, gotta unload and go back.
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FishHog
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# Posted: 23 Dec 2020 16:27
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well I'm glad you made it back safe. that is quite the transport method.

paulz
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# Posted: 24 Dec 2020 07:49
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Second round went quicker. Little over 800'. I only need 200 for my drain, 5 pipes, so I think I'll just use the rubber clamp couplers.

Thanks for giving me the impetus to go get this stuff.
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Irrigation Guy
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# Posted: 24 Dec 2020 08:28 - Edited by: Irrigation Guy
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I would say to buy that new would be several thousand dollars.

paulz
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# Posted: 24 Dec 2020 09:20
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Yeah I'm seeing around $4 a foot. Took me most of the day yesterday and I'm beat today but worth it. Plus that culvert pipe.

Another potential benefit. the young strapping kid who lives there is anxious to come down and work for me, close enough to ride his bicycle over.

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