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justinbowser
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# Posted: 3 May 2020 17:24
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After careful deliberation we spent our Covid19 check on another 24V 200 AH LiFePO4 battery! We now have a little over 19KW of battery!!

FishHog
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# Posted: 3 May 2020 18:22
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That’s a lot of juice. Think my cottage could run for a year off that

Nobadays
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# Posted: 3 May 2020 19:08
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So far, lumber and topsoil. Getting the cold frames built, in place and partially planted and the HF portable building repurposed to be a greenhouse. The rest of the funds, plus some tax return (thanks to last year's 30% back on solar equipment) will go to build a 10' x 20' shop/woodshed.
Cold frames
Cold frames
Greenhouse
Greenhouse
1 1/4 yard of topsoil
1 1/4 yard of topsoil


justinbowser
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# Posted: 3 May 2020 19:22
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Are the "cold frames" like little hot-houses for plants?

justinbowser
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# Posted: 3 May 2020 19:25 - Edited by: justinbowser
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Fish - Yeah, it's a goodly amount but hopefully with this much I will be able to run the AC for a while after the sun goes down. I currently have no problem running it all day with sunshine but don't want to stress the batteries too much so I will get max cycles out of them...

Without AC running we use about 2.4 KW per day. We use the 26" TV about 3 hours a day, laptop, various wall-warts, 12V fridge, and 5 cu ft freezer.

Nobadays
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# Posted: 3 May 2020 21:56
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Yep.... cold frames help extend the season in areas where frost can come about any month of the year. We are definitely late getting started this year with things like spinach, beets, carrots, swiss chard and lettuces. We should have the greenhouse ready to plant in the next week or so... could have started the tender stuff like tomatoes, eggplant, beans, cucumbers and squash earlier if it were done, but oh well.

toyota_mdt_tech
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# Posted: 3 May 2020 22:15
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Mine is in the bank for now.

ICC
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# Posted: 4 May 2020 09:09
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Quoting: toyota_mdt_tech
Mine is in the bank for now.


Yep. The credit union for me.

paulz
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# Posted: 4 May 2020 09:30
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Strip club!

Haven't gotten one yet, hope to.

KinAlberta
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# Posted: 4 May 2020 17:22 - Edited by: KinAlberta
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I get nothing.

Well not now but I’m sure in coming years I’ll get a bill from the government (a bail everybody out bill.)

I am having fun with it though:
Some right-leaning friends have often talked about government waste and in the past, rather coldly called laid off and fired people: “deadwood”.

I’m throwing that back at them now. Private companies everywhere lining up for taxpayer money. Central banks screwing the conservative savers to lower interest rates, etc. to bail out those in debt. Government borrowing money to help those that thought they were immune to job loss.

I’m pointing out to them that our economy never closed. It stayed open in terms of “essential services”. Lots of people working - risking their lives too.

It’s the non-essentials, those people that are sitting around at home, that are getting a wake up call. They would otherwise be called “deadwood” right? Non-essential. It’s these non-essentials that have the time to protest and complain about the fact that their jobs really aren’t needed. Me included but I’ve known in every job I’ve ever held that I was totally expendable. As a result I’ve always greatly appreciated those people in government and the private sector that do the truly important jobs.

toyota_mdt_tech
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# Posted: 4 May 2020 20:43 - Edited by: toyota_mdt_tech
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Keep in mind, those people were told to stop working and go home. Made it illegal to run their biz or to even serve those who wanted to cater to their biz.

Many small biz owners are facing bankruptcy, many wont survive this, many will not return. This was a govt decision, not theirs.
I have now been employed uninterrupted since 1985, worked every day. Called in sick one day, 1981, that was the last time. I'm the guy who is at work an hour before starting time, more reliable than the sunrise or Honda power equipment. I have had this job I am at now for over 31 years.

I have always paid my taxes, I am always eligible for a tax increase when they come around, but never fit the criteria for a tax break.

I did not ask for this money, it was stuffed into my bank. We have a massive debt, its not from me.

I turn 60 this year and will work till about 64, then I am going to retire. I have been putting in 20% into a 401K for decades now.

Its also strange how those on the left take glee in a down turned economy. But people are not tolerating it much longer, we are seeing pushback now.
Its time to open it up now.


Signed, essential worker, still employed.

ICC
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# Posted: 5 May 2020 09:56 - Edited by: ICC
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I believe that people who have not lost their job because of the novel coronavius should not have been sent a stimulus check. Same for people like myself who are more or less retired; maybe only work as a way to fill time or to help people.

I also believe no bailout money should go to the large publically traded companies which compensate their CEO's with overly generous compensation. But the truly small companies, from the "mom and pop's", the local hardware store with 6 employees, the local market with 24, and so should be helped/ Those should receive payments that cover 75 to 80% of their employee wages if those employees are retained on the payroll, even if there is no work.

This novel coronavirus is not the seasonal flu. These are not the normal times we all have been used to. Warren Buffet sold all his US airline stock. His company used to own about 10% of the stock of each of the 4 major US airlines. He sold it all. He is not even buying up low priced stock as he has done with all market downturns in the past. That should indicate something.

toyota_mdt_tech
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# Posted: 5 May 2020 20:51
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Quoting: ICC
I believe that people who have not lost their job because of the novel coronavius should not have been sent a stimulus check. Same for people like myself who are more or less retired; maybe only work as a way to fill time or to help people.


I think the only people who didnt see a reduction in pay was all govt employees, if they were sent home, they got 100% of their pay.

Private sector, like myself, but considered essential, seen a huge drop off in work, so the work load dropped way down. So I also seen a decline in my income. Went down to 3 days a week.
This was not a result of any decision on my end. It was a govt decision, you cant tell everyone they have to stop working and hide out in their homes without a huge financial hit. Certainly retired, it was a non issue.
This could wipe out a young family in the service sector with a mortgage in a hurry.
I suspect 30% of restaurants wont open back up and of those left that do, 10% more fill fail in the first year after they do open back up.

spencerin
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# Posted: 5 May 2020 21:50
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So, uh, I haven't even received mine yet.....

But, I "pre-spent" it in a direct vent propane heater.

ICC
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# Posted: 5 May 2020 21:53
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OK, fair enough, if a persons hours are cut because of less work, they deserve a fair compensation for that. That would come from the government. But if your hours were not cut, then no stimulus, no extra money unless it is overtime like the extra hours a friend who is a pharmacist. He worked extra hours in the hospital pharmacy to fill in for people who got ill. WA state.

So what would you do if you were in charge? Let everything go on as if all was normal?

toyota_mdt_tech
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# Posted: 5 May 2020 23:59
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I didnt understand the stimulus for everyone either, maybe hoping to inject some money into the economy to keep it going?

My work load is really picking up now, I see loads more traffic too. So people are starting to to about their biz, even if the govt hasn't really opened up our state.

But after Wed, I am off till Monday, nice weather, gettign caught up around here. Packing for a cabin run the following weekend. Just my sister and myself.

KinAlberta
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# Posted: 7 May 2020 02:49
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I think the guaranteed basic income system would have worked quite well in this situation. Give everyone a boost to their income. Done. Then tax it right back from those that didn’t need it. Very little bureaucracy involved.

Would also be interesting seeing how people would try to game it. There’s always someone finding some way to screw over their fellow citizens no matter what method is used.

KinAlberta
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# Posted: 7 May 2020 02:56 - Edited by: KinAlberta
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Quoting: toyota_mdt_tech
Its also strange how those on the left take glee in a down turned economy


I haven’t seen that.

Most “left” leaning people I know would have the government doing near anything to avoid a downturn.

That said, here in Alberta we had people on the right flipping out over near anything that could add uncertainty to the oil sector. My response was that anyone in business expects uncertainty and lives uncertainty. That’s business. Many good businesses make their greatest advances in the tough times as their competitors fail, their workers take their jobs more seriously, etc.

Regarding the pandemic Yes, it was government decree. In that way it’s like a war or terrorism. I recall that in 2001 all air travel was suspended for a while. I think it’s wise for all businesses to plan for disasters and interruptions. My parents lived through the Great Depression and preparation and conservative living was a way of life for them and everyone else I knew from that generation. Today people and business seem to embrace “Just in time” for everything. It’s great and super efficient - until it fails.

toyota_mdt_tech
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# Posted: 7 May 2020 09:03 - Edited by: toyota_mdt_tech
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JIT or just in time, we were pushed to try that at my employer, ie parts on hand for the job, ordered day prior when making appt, I remember sending a part runner all over for simple thinks like the unexpected items, didnt last too long, we scrapped it.

I see that on car production, no store rooms, the seats come in from a mfg the day they are needed and enter assy line, one hiccup and it all has to shut down.

The 911 I think was for that day and a few days after that, slowly picked back up.

Saudi has open the spicket to squeeze russia, so oil dropped way down. Well below market value. We have lots of oil, but fracking to get it makes it more costly, so after about $40 a barrel and under, we have to shut down, not profitable. But it will come back. Market forces at work, they balance out.
The 9/11 and corona virus wasnt markets, was govt mandates.

I was just moved back to M-F now, so things are improving fast. Work load is really picking up and traffic is getting busy again.

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