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Grizzlyman
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# Posted: 15 May 2023 19:38 - Edited by: Grizzlyman
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Finally got up to the place this weekend. We had a late ice-out again which means we couldn’t get to the island.
Everything made it through the winter… EXCEPT the chimney.
We had near record snow this year, and the snowpack didn’t melt hardly at all between November and April/May. That means we probably had a very deep pack on the roof. We were there in Feb and it was 2ft then.
At some point we must have had a big slide off the roof.
The chimney had supports and a snow splitter.
One of the support brackets was ripped right out of the roof...Bracket intact, screws ripped out. Then the support somehow got a big bend in it. The snow splitter on that side of the chimney was also ripped right out. Otherwise completely intact.
Luckily the chimney is fine… just tilted. Seal is fine as well so thankfully no water intrusion. When the chimney tilted it caused the inside to lever the other way and disconnected the stack inside the cabin. That was laying on the floor but still in good condition.
Crazy.
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gcrank1
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# Posted: 15 May 2023 20:27
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Wood stoves have sooo many joys 
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ICC
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# Posted: 15 May 2023 20:39
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Could be worse, and I am happy that it is not!
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Brettny
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# Posted: 16 May 2023 05:49
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Maybe you need a sharper snow splitter? Maybe a splinter above the brace arms. Snow brakes above it all?
You could also move the chimney to the peak and not have much to worry about. I plan on putting mine right out the peak.
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Grizzlyman
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# Posted: 16 May 2023 15:22
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Brettny
Can’t really be sharper as it has to span the rafters.
I didn’t have any issues last year, so am hoping it’s just a one time thing related to the crazy snow this year. We’ll see.
Agree I would have originally liked to have it in middle of the cabin under the peak but asthetically and for space reasons that didn’t work.
I’ll fix it (I will lag the damn things in) this time and see if that holds better.
Crazy the power in a snowslide like that.
On the plus side it gives me confidence in the cabin knowing it can support those snow loads. 
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Brettny
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# Posted: 16 May 2023 20:16
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Lagging something like that in may not work. The snow could have just slid overtop of the splitter, basicly making it a ramp. Sharper meaning further up the roof and taller..not really wider.
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gcrank1
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# Posted: 16 May 2023 21:18
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More like a dormer roof?
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Grizzlyman
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# Posted: 30 May 2023 07:49
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Went to repair this weekend. Well the “adjustable” legs on the chimney support are frozen up and won’t move. (It is simply two pieces of conduit sliding inside each other with a hose clamp over the end).
I couldn’t adjust it despite hanmering on the ends of the poles. I simply reattached everything and wrapped some wire around the chimney to hold it temporarily.
I need new supports.
I’ve used two of these kits and they’re not great… That and the band contraption they use to secure to the chimney is huge pain as well.
https://www.menards.com/main/heating-cooling/venting/insulated-double-wall-stove-pipe /supervent-reg-universal-class-a-double-wall-roof-guy-kit/jurgk-1/p-1444453719097-c-6 894.htm?tid=0dc1e335-383e-46de-952a-89c044757d90&ipos=13&exp=false
Anyone recommend any OTHER kits?
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gcrank1
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# Posted: 30 May 2023 09:52
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With your conditions it sounds like you may need to be looking at commercial grade rather than consumer grade stuff?
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Brettny
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# Posted: 30 May 2023 11:17
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You need more of a snow splitter. Trying to hold back snow on a metal roof with brackets made to hold just the chimney up isnt going to work well.
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Brettny
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# Posted: 30 May 2023 11:20
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What about something like this design? You could fairly easily make this with a angle grinder and thick aluminum.
https://www.amazon.com/VentSaver-Stove-Chimney-Protect-Metal/dp/B00DRE1D0M/ref=asc_df _B00DRE1D0M/?tag=smacab-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=309750302298&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=14 001279817978469754&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=906760 9&hvtargid=pla-571718869195&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=60862048959&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadi d=309750302298&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=14001279817978469754&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&h vlocint=&hvlocphy=9067609&hvtargid=pla-571718869195
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Grizzlyman
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# Posted: 30 May 2023 19:06
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You mean the snow splitter I have isn’t good enough?
https://www.menards.com/main/heating-cooling/fireplaces-stoves/fireplace-wood-stove-t ools-accessories/wood-stove-accessories/selkirk-reg-snow-splitter/2001922/p-144445372 1181-c-6881.htm
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rpe
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# Posted: 30 May 2023 19:29
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Sorry to hear of the damage over winter. That's certainly one drawback of steel roofs. That snow splitter Brettny linked to above looks pretty robust.
We have a cottage neighbour that keeps getting his septic vent whacked. Normal snow break hasn't been enough in his application - it was all bent and twisted like a big guy jumped on it.
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gcrank1
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# Posted: 31 May 2023 10:46
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I think I'd make a slide-over 'ski-jump' for the top of that vent stack.
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NorthRick
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# Posted: 31 May 2023 18:15
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Probably more than you'd want to do, but having the pipe exit the roof near the peak pretty much eliminates the problem.
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gcrank1
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# Posted: 31 May 2023 21:15
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Yeah that!
30+ years at our old place, stack within about 4' of peak, no braces, no guard, no problems ever.
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