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socceronly
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# Posted: 15 Apr 2025 08:39am - Edited by: socceronly
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Building a 10x16 on skids..... and saw a deal on bulk 2x from a mill.
In my head I was like, it would be a bit cheaper to nail a solid floor together over the cost of joists, PT ply, insulation, floor sheathing, vapor barrier, floor finish....
While tedious it would seem to remove the existential threat of not getting the insulation/vapor barrier/critter shield right.
7.25" of thermal mass.... not a winter cabin anyway.
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gcrank1
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# Posted: 15 Apr 2025 09:35am
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Sounds awfully labor, and nail, intensive
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paulz
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# Posted: 15 Apr 2025 12:26pm
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2x sideways? How long a span?
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Atlincabin
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# Posted: 15 Apr 2025 01:15pm
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If on skids and you decide to move it, it would be much heavier. Just one thought.
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MtnDon
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# Posted: 15 Apr 2025 02:45pm
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It would burn a long time if it caught fire.
Wouldn't the floor surface be a bit uneven? Even if the 2x were cut to the same saw setting for the rip cut to width, there seems to be a slight variance, not to mention the variable that will be apparent when individual 2x's develop any slight curve. I'm sure it would drive me to renting a floor sander.
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jsahara24
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# Posted: 15 Apr 2025 03:02pm
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Quoting: MtnDon Wouldn't the floor surface be a bit uneven? Even if the 2x were cut to the same saw setting for the rip cut to width, there seems to be a slight variance
My buddy installed 2x10s vertically (touching each other) across a bridge they have. Its definitely really bumpy when you cross it......
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travellerw
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# Posted: 15 Apr 2025 04:36pm
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Let me play you the sounds of your people...
SQUEAK, SQUEAK, SQUEAK, SQUEAK
Seriously, my brother lives in a house where they used 1X6s for the flooring (diagonal to the joists). It was a common building technique in the 60-70s here as sheet goods were harder to get.
That floor squeaks, always has, always will.
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socceronly
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# Posted: 15 Apr 2025 05:23pm
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Now hold on everyone, what's 7260 nails among friends?
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socceronly
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# Posted: 15 Apr 2025 05:25pm - Edited by: socceronly
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ps... I'm not doing this, just thought it was interesting on the money math...
Now... about those walls! Walls don't squeak.....
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DRP
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# Posted: 15 Apr 2025 06:46pm
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Google nail-lam and then dowel lam... and then Cross laminated timber... and then mass timber. Right now it is aimed at tall commercial but it is filtering down. I've worked with one extension agent who has purchased presses and is exploring residential. It is coming, hopefully a good use for overstocked/underutilized species.
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socceronly
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# Posted: 15 Apr 2025 07:29pm
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Dang, that stuff is neat!
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travellerw
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# Posted: 15 Apr 2025 11:57pm
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Quoting: socceronly Now... about those walls! Walls don't squeak.
Yup.. Was done for like 200 years.. Plaster and lathe.
But if you use it as outside sheathing (cdn word, sheeting in USA). It will absolutely squeak in the wind. You will be shocked how much a building moves when the wind blows. Or even when people are walking around.
If its a light use cabin, then maybe you don't care. For me, sheet goods are used for a reason. I can't deal with squeaking.
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Brettny
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# Posted: 16 Apr 2025 07:46am
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Quoting: gcrank1 Sounds awfully labor, and nail, intensive
And bumpy as hell. Not all dimentional lumber is the same dimention like sheet goods.
There is a R value to look up for 1in of solid wood. It's not great.
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Liam2018
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# Posted: 29 Apr 2025 03:41am
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I was going back and forth on this exact question a while ago. I ended up leaning toward charred wood cladding — kind of a middle ground: it's still wood, but more weather-resistant and has a cool, low-maintenance finish. I found some decent options here: https://timbersol.co.uk/product-category/charred-cladding/. Might be worth checking out if you’re still exploring wood options.
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DRP
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# Posted: 29 Apr 2025 11:42am - Edited by: DRP
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Charring has pretty much been debunked since the fire treatment of posts was proposed in the 20's. It can be a nice looking finish but that is all it is.
It is clear from Figure 2 that the yakisugi process does not systematically protect wood
from decay. Looking at the sample means, there were more cases where the data fell above
the 1:1 sample line than fell below the line. In other words, charring was just as likely to
increase the amount of decay as it was to protect it from decay. However, some trends can
be observed upon closer examination of the data.
https://www.fpl.fs.usda.gov/documnts/pdf2021/fpl_2021_hasburgh002.pdf
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gcrank1
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# Posted: 29 Apr 2025 02:11pm
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Fwiw, our prev shack was local sawmill random width white pine boards inside and out.
They were not finish planed for consistent thickness or width.
It certainly looked 'rustic'.....but....
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DRP
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# Posted: 29 Apr 2025 08:29pm
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The first machine I bought after the sawmill was a planer !
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