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Gnerd
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# Posted: 16 Feb 2021 15:13 - Edited by: Gnerd
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How many of you off-griders don't have, or know someone who doesn't have, a phone: no smart phone, no flip phone, no sat phone, no land line? What are your reasons for being phoneless?

frankpaige
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# Posted: 16 Feb 2021 16:30
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🤔🤔Wondering if there is such a person that is online? That would be pretty hard core.
Flip phone person and loving it.

lburners
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# Posted: 17 Feb 2021 18:18 - Edited by: lburners
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I have been running an Ubuntu phone for years. Closest I can get to not supporting the big trackers.

paulz
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# Posted: 17 Feb 2021 20:23
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A friend of mine has only a landline, that's as close as I know of. I'd love to pitch my cell phone in the ditch sometimes but unfortunately it's part of life now.

Saw a comedian on a Johnny Carson rerun last night, forget his name but he did a bit on getting his first answering machine and realizing what a loser he was, coming home and seeing that big digital 0 on the display. Before that he thought he was just missing the calls.

ICC
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# Posted: 17 Feb 2021 20:49 - Edited by: ICC
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If push came to shove, I would give up my PC before I would give up my smartphone. I don't view not having a phone as a badge of honor. I answer it when I feel like it, I let calls roll to voicemail if I feel like it. The phone belongs to me, the phone serves me, not the other way around.

It is a convenience much like electricity or water that comes out of a faucet, motor vehicles that take the place of a horse to get to town. The list goes on.

Aklogcabin
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# Posted: 18 Feb 2021 09:23
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I have a phone because my beautiful wife bought me one. But I don't use it. I sits on the table. If folks need me I tell them to call her. I haven't put it in my pocket for months.

gcrank1
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# Posted: 18 Feb 2021 09:37
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You live dangerously! Not just because you dont carry the phone but because your wife bought it for you and you dont carry it.
(btdt, my wife got me one too)

paulz
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# Posted: 18 Feb 2021 09:57
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I was much like you guys until I joined the local volunteer fire dept. Just had a flip phone. But those young sobs use texting for most matters, even get dispatches by text. Had to upgrade to a smart phone.

Since then, I take all my photos with it, don't even know where my camera is. Also, on my weekend Craigslist excursions into the sprawling metropolis it has become invaluable for spitting out directions. And it notifies me when my trail cam takes a photo. And I use the notepad to list things I need to do or get. The alarm goes off every night for my wife to take her meds. I use the calculator frequently. There are many more useful apps I don't have or know about, and I don't know how to use the voice recognition.

So I end up taking it everywhere like a nerd kid. But, I don't use it while I drive or walk around, too old for that much multitasking.

ICC
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# Posted: 18 Feb 2021 10:26 - Edited by: ICC
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I use a normal calculator, a metric converter, a fractions calculator and a board foot calculator. The grocery shopping app has been very useful during periods of the pandemic when I don't want to go inside the stores. The Telegram app lets me easily keep in contact with overseas friends, quickly and at no cost. The AWC span calculator. I have an app that gets used a lot when we hike and explore. The FedEx and UPS apps let me track and even change deliveries. Kindle app gets used a lot. My recipe book is an app that I cam also access on a PC. I could go on and on.

Paul mentioned notepad; I use OneNote and it too is superb; access on phone or PC. Lots of lists, no paper.

The phone is just another tool. It has the ability to hurt you if you let it take over your time. Just be prudent.

The worst thing for me is I need to take out my eyeglasses to see most of the details on my screen.

Gnerd
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# Posted: 18 Feb 2021 11:59
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Wow… looks like I’m the only one so far!

Actually, I’m not even off-grid right now, though I have been before and will be again. Nor am I a luddite; I have two laptops and can get pretty nerdy on them. I’m not a hardcore super-survivalist, nor bound and determined to be completely and totally unplugged from the Matrix at any cost. I don’t use a phone because… I choose not to.

Seriously: phones are nothing but a major source of stress and worry to me. They are in no way a convenience; they are a burden. I can’t stand trying to converse with a disembodied voice on the phone. Unlike ICC, I can’t answer the phone only when I feel like it, because I NEVER feel like it. Voicemail, and having to return a call, is even worse. If I have a job that requires taking calls and/or texts (been there, done that) I get this awful sinking feeling every time the rotten thing chirps its lame little song. I’ve gotten to the point where I just don’t want to put myself through all that any more, and so I’ve made my choice: to not own a phone.

The only bad thing is that so many people seem to have such a hard time respecting my decision. Sometimes it’s almost as if I was choosing to live without clothes, LOL. Yeah, this is a headache, but less so than putting up with all the stress and tension of having a phone just to satisfy others’ expectations.

I could write a whole essay about this. Instead, I’ll only humbly ask this: you’re welcome to write me a letter, chat with me online, send me an email (to which I’ll respond when I feel like it), even drop by for a visit; but please, PLEASE don’t ask me to call you!

Gnerd
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# Posted: 18 Feb 2021 12:04
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Quoting: Aklogcabin

I have a phone because my beautiful wife bought me one. But I don't use it. I sits on the table. If folks need me I tell them to call her. I haven't put it in my pocket for months.

Aklog, I envy you. I wish I had a wife to handle all the crud I'm no good at, leaving me free to focus on what I am good at. Like in one of those James Herriot books, about the country veterinarian in England: he tells about another vet in a nearby town, a really good one who was much in demand, but who would only take a job if he wanted to, and he never talked on the phone. He let his wife do that, and they were both perfectly happy with that arrangement.

pabear89
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# Posted: 18 Feb 2021 12:32
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I have a flip phone and wireless internet thru cell carrier. It is the only way to connect with outside as there is no utilities or mail service even close by.

I chose to live in the woods and love it, The people who have my number are counted on one hand and still have fingers left. I do receive one call each day, It from my daughter checking on me.

Her concern is she is 60 miles away and I am alone,
So a call or text to make sure I am upright and breathing and not in trouble lowers her stress level.

And those telemarketeers soon wish they never connected that number.

ICC
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# Posted: 18 Feb 2021 12:37
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A smartphone is much more than just a phone. FWIW, I would estimate that at least 95% of my phone use is for all those things that are NOT voice phone calls.

I have not actually talked to anyone on
my phone for probably a week. Email, etc, Yes. Voice, No. Just saying that the owner of the phone decides how and what to use. And if we make a choice to not have a phone that is our choice. I do find it to be a very useful tool.

ICC
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# Posted: 18 Feb 2021 12:40
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Quoting: pabear89
Her concern is she is 60 miles away and I am alone,
So a call or text to make sure I am upright and breathing and not in trouble lowers her stress level.


Very good point!

I use texts a lot with family members daily for much the same reason. And you never know when something might happen and the phone could be a lifesaving tool.

Aklogcabin
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# Posted: 19 Feb 2021 13:49
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Gnerd, I am the most blessed man in the world. My beautiful wife does all the business. When folks need to get a hold of me I tell them to call her.
I do visit with my 93 year old dad.
When folks ask about emergency situations. I tell them call 911 not me. Guess if I need help I'll need to find someone with a phone. I did have a phone for work. I don't know the number though. Don't even know where it is.
I just got an email address last week. So others could send me pictures. I don't remember that either.
Building a cabin in remote AK. I'm good with that. Using a phone or computer much further than poking around on the net. Not so much.

ICC
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# Posted: 19 Feb 2021 13:57
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I jusr remembered another thing I love about my smartphone. Of course, it uses Bluetooth for many things. My hearing aids which I wear from the moment I get up to the moment I go to bed also have Bluetooth. Phone calls, music, whatever all connect via bluetooth to my hearing aids. That does provide superior sound. They are so good I often forget I am wearing them.

gcrank1
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# Posted: 19 Feb 2021 14:07
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Bet they cost as much as a very nice solar-elec system

ICC
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# Posted: 19 Feb 2021 14:23
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For me, my first pair were life transforming and worth every nickel. After a few years Bluetooth was adopted, added to some. Yes, they cost more but that was also very worthwhile to me. I already had a good solar system...

My kids (all grown up) who are quite ourspoken all tell me I became a human again after getting the hearing aids.

mj1angier
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# Posted: 19 Feb 2021 19:27
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Quoting: ICC
A smartphone is much more than just a phone. FWIW, I would estimate that at least 95% of my phone use is for all those things that are NOT voice phone calls.

I have not actually talked to anyone on
my phone for probably a week. Email, etc, Yes. Voice, No. Just saying that the owner of the phone decides how and what to use. And if we make a choice to not have a phone that is our choice. I do find it to be a very useful tool.


This. And the thing I like/ use the most is the camera. It's great for taking photos of things I need to remember, hard to see/ reach bolts that I am going to have work on by feel, the stupid small print on thing like the wifi label password....

ICC
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# Posted: 19 Feb 2021 21:09 - Edited by: ICC
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Don't forget the camera! I also vary the frame size, the proportions or the resolution a lot depending why I am taking a picture. It is a handy notetaker too.

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