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zorro
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# Posted: 18 May 2020 10:20
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Now that it is that time of year again where we get tortured in the Adirondacks region (and maybe elsewhere?)

I have tried every normal spray - no deet, 90% deet, eucalyptus, peppermint, etc

Anyone have any secret sprays, creams, recipes that helps at all?

Thanks

Houska
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# Posted: 18 May 2020 13:31 - Edited by: Houska
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In Eastern Ontario, I've found that for extended activity outdoors, a mesh bug hat that hangs over face, ears, neck; and, optionally, mesh bug jacket; are the only things that work well enough to not be driven mad.

For brief activity, or if you're moving quickly and staying away from wet areas, I've found 40% DEET or picardin/icardin sprays work well enough to make it manageable. But don't expect miracles.

For us at least, however, black fly season only lasts a few weeks. If you're lucky, you then have a couple of weeks with mosquitoes only until the deer flies start....

Good luck!

zorro
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# Posted: 18 May 2020 15:13
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Thanks very much for that

I have the mesh head net, long sleeve t-shirts, etc............i was hoping there was some spray that someone had found that I was not aware of

They are like torture when working outside!!

FishHog
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# Posted: 18 May 2020 18:01
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I agree with Houska but my eyes go crazy after too long of looking through a mesh covering. Permithyn sprayed on clothes and a hat also helps. But it’s hard to get in Canada

Still don’t expect miracles. They are horrible little things

Whiskey Jack
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# Posted: 18 May 2020 21:22
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We've been using Permethrin for years now. We have to buy it in the US. With a group of people it does a good job keeping bugs away with the added benefit that any that land on your clothes will die.
For spraying on tou body, try icaridin. You can get it at Canadian tire. Woods brand. You'll probably have to read the ingredients. Doesn't melt plastic like feet and isn't real greasy feeling.

old243
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# Posted: 19 May 2020 09:42
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hope for a spell of hot weather, it shortens , the fly season. An interesting thing, black flies are claustrafobic ( spelling) if they get inside , they will try to get back out, I think deer flies are as well. They hatch in clean running water. Mosquitoes on the other hand, will seek you out anywhere. They will hatch out of any stagnant water, eavetroughs, pails sitting around. They are very adaptable. old243

zorro
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# Posted: 19 May 2020 12:00
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Thanks guys

Going to try the Permethrin and see how it goes, as well as the usual deet, etc

Thanks

hueyjazz
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# Posted: 19 May 2020 12:14
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I don't know if they make this anymore but I use to spend a lot of time in the Adirondacks. The gold standard was then something call Olde Time Woodsman's Fly Dope. It smells pretty bad but always seemed to work and didn't sweat off too easy. It was a brown thicker liquid.

I think it was made in Maine. And oh, you haven't lived until you've been in Maine for black fly season.
Only thing I ever experience that came close in the boundary waters of upper Minnesota between Canada.

You can't repel insects. What you are doing is blocking their receptors. They are attracted by carbon dioxide and skin odors.

jsahara24
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# Posted: 19 May 2020 15:23
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Looks like some of the towns are trying to eradicate them!

https://www.newyorkupstate.com/adirondacks/2020/05/adirondack-black-fly-update-theyll -be-coming-out-hard-memorial-day-weekend.html?fbclid=IwAR1K0BWE51M7OhPOh7hmtvDX4jw-Ih U8bvdGmjLLi7WNuL_dmFUWcPtyCEI

skootamattaschmidty
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# Posted: 19 May 2020 17:59
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Like the others, unfortunately I have found the only thing that works during black fly season is bug suits. It's terrible when you are trying to work and you are sweating but I havent had any success with any kind of spray! They are relentless and I plan to go to my cabin the end of the month and I think they will be thick!!

Brettny
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# Posted: 20 May 2020 18:09
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I just got back from our property and I thought we where dealing with nats... they where actually black flys. We used no DEET and had one head net between two of us. I'm a bit lumped up but we did find something that works but it needs application frequently. We also have two shot hair dogs that this worked on too. Richard organics flea and tick spray. Yes it's for dogs but it works very well on people and even ticks.
Here's the link.
https://www.petco.com/shop/en/petcostore/product/richards-organics-flea-and-tick-spra y

moneypitfeeder
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# Posted: 21 May 2020 19:57 - Edited by: moneypitfeeder
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Wish I knew about the old time earlier, not enough time to get it B4 we go up to camp but might consider for next year: oletimewoodsman.com

Brettny
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# Posted: 22 May 2020 10:28
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Any idea what's in that old time woodsman stuff?

Thermacell things do work also. They where the only thing that worked for both the mosquitos and deer flys in the late summer.

moneypitfeeder
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# Posted: 23 May 2020 20:09
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Not sure whats in it (second part of the reason I haven't bought any yet), from what I can tell, the only posts from Zorro has been this thread. Makes me wonder about the product...the website doesn't list ingredients, which is a no-go for me.

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