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KinAlberta
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# Posted: 20 Sep 2020 21:15 - Edited by: KinAlberta
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They are spreading across North America.


Boar War


“When people go out and shoot only one or two out of a sounder, then [the surviving boars] disperse into new territories, become nocturnal and become very wary of humans,” says Abramenko. “It makes it almost impossible to eradicate them.”

“You need to be doing what we call whole-sounder-removal,” says Brook. “You find 12 animals, you kill 12 animals.” ...

https://albertaviews.ca/boar-war/





600 lbs !!!




Huge feral hogs invading Canada, building ‘pigloos’ as they go


https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/2020/03/huge-feral-hogs-swine-spreading-th rough-north-canada/






Alberta resorts to drones, remote cameras to track elusive wild boars | Calgary Herald


“Ironically, hunters may be playing a role in the animals’ spread from the traditional hot spots of Woodland and Lac St. Anne counties, he said.

“Hunting usually involves just removing one at a time, but ...”

“Hunters are not helping us with eradication. They’re actually making the problem worse.”

... The non-native animals were brought to Western Canada from Europe in the 1980s to be hunted for sport but were officially designated a pest in 2008 after numbers of them escaped from their enclosures.”

https://calgaryherald.com/news/local-news/hoping-to-control-albertas-wild-boars-offic ials-turn-to-drones-remote-cameras

https://calgaryherald.com



toyota_mdt_tech
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# Posted: 22 Sep 2020 20:20 - Edited by: toyota_mdt_tech
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They are great hunting, great eating, but not native and people kinda like to sneak them in for good hunting. We are trying to eradicate them. We had some in my state, very few sightings, fish and wildlife was all over it. They said no license, no season, no limit, looks like we got it stopped. They are hard on everything.

They are one of the smartest animals in around. You wouldnt think so, but they are very intelligent.

KinAlberta
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# Posted: 22 Sep 2020 23:24 - Edited by: KinAlberta
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Check out the map:

'Feral Swine Bomb'? Find Out Why Wild Pigs Are Becoming a Problem Everyone Needs to Worry About
Andrew Whalen 1 day ago


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/feral-swine-bomb-find-out-why-wild-pigs-are-becomin g-a-problem-everyone-needs-to-worry-about/ar-BB19gO1d


The Clock Is Ticking on America’s ‘Feral Swine Bomb’
Wild pigs are running rampant—and doing billions of dollars of damage each year.


DIANE PETERSUNDARK. SEPTEMBER 19, 2020

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2020/09/wild-pigs-are-everywhere/616389/

NorthRick
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# Posted: 23 Sep 2020 13:38
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I'm surprised to hear they are such a problem in Canada. I always thought they were more of a southern animal.

KinAlberta
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# Posted: 24 Sep 2020 09:46 - Edited by: KinAlberta
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Some people thought privatizing the gains and socializing the risks was a good idea. Not just socialized risks. Passed losses over to the farming, hunting and other communities. The things are highly destructive. (They were legalized and then escaped from enclosures - of course.)

bugs
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# Posted: 24 Sep 2020 13:45 - Edited by: bugs
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Hmmm. The Cdn Wild boar research centre is at the UofS...We submit any boar images/videos we get to the researchers there.

https://news.usask.ca/articles/research/2019/wild-pigs-invade-canadian-provincesan-em erging-crisis-for-agriculture-and-the-environment.php

We have them at our place. Fortunately so far they seem to be just passing through.

Boar video

https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipNDkRhMttfuyxnm1KzCnrYasUZoLskYB30XANPJR02ADFYec hoZJYjuHVtkgWOuBg/photo/AF1QipPAdSNJylYfYyAFsABCmIG-FFExWHqNNHP4tbp6?key=LUhwQjJaYVJH R25iRGhILTJmYUp0NnVKOGtfajV3

From what I read casual hunting really will not effectively control them as the sounders learn fast. Trapping and eliminating the whole sounder is more effective...
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KinAlberta
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# Posted: 24 Sep 2020 14:09 - Edited by: KinAlberta
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Like that one guy said:

“You find 12 animals, you kill 12 animals.”

Much like our problem pandemics. Either win the war hard and fast or expect to lose.

deercula
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# Posted: 24 Sep 2020 15:22
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Dumbass NY state says to report them, don't shoot them. Easy for the authorities to tell you to watch the destruction. Screw them! I'm makin' bacon.

Brettny
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# Posted: 25 Sep 2020 10:54
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Have you seen any in NY?

deercula
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# Posted: 26 Sep 2020 08:06
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I have not. My neighbors sent me pics of about 20 standing in my driveway. They were escapees from a farm 2 miles away. The farmer had given up trying to capture them. So either the coyotes had a feast, or they are alive and well and living feral. Link below to info from NY D.E.C......2014.


http://nyis.info/invasive_species/feral-swine/

KinAlberta
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# Posted: 26 Sep 2020 10:13 - Edited by: KinAlberta
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Why not big bounties on them? But creative and not continuous or people will “game the system” so they can create a great income stream for themselves.

Maybe separate regional hunting licences specifically for wild pigs and a delayed prorated bonus to be paid to the hunters once an area is proven to be feral free for a few years.

Eg. Register to hunt this block, submit proof of kills, share in million dollar bonus after the block is 4 years feral-free.




Giant Feral Pigs On The Loose In Canada :: Guns.com

There were doubts surrounding the pigs’ ability to survive in Canada’s cold climate; the wild pigs not only survived, but they increased their body size and fat levels to stay warm. While pigs south of the border can reach 350 pounds, pigs up north have been recorded at over 600 pounds!

CAN THEY BE HUNTED?
... “If you want more wild pigs, have a hunting season,” he said. ...

“You could kill off 70% of a wild pig population each year and still have a larger population the next year,” he said.

https://www.guns.com/news/2020/04/09/giant-feral-pigs-on-the-loose-in-canada



toyota_mdt_tech
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# Posted: 30 Sep 2020 15:50
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Quoting: KinAlberta
Why not big bounties on them? But creative and not continuous or people will “game the system” so they can create a great income stream for themselves


Because they want them gone, no revenue stream, if they can have hunters help for free, all the better.

toyota_mdt_tech
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# Posted: 4 Nov 2020 10:48
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Megan, be careful on feeders, it will bring in bears too and they wont leave and become a problem till they are move by fish and wildlife and the bear manages to return to its exact location before the move and within day and then the problem bear its exterminated. Feeders will does bring in smaller unwanted varmints, mice rats etc.

Best thing you can do is to continue to let the wildlife fend for themselves.

Pigs are destructive, extremely smart, dont for a minute, think a pig is a dumb animal. They are good eating too. If unchecked, they will destroy your landscape from rooting and they breed pretty rapidly too. They are not native here.

KinAlberta
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# Posted: 4 Nov 2020 22:02
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Research highlights the importance of community coordination when combatting spread of destructive feral hogs

https://phys.org/news/2020-10-highlights-importance-combatting-destructive-feral.html

KinAlberta
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# Posted: 11 Oct 2021 20:29
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Ontario calls wild pigs 'ecological trainwreck.' Now it wants a plan to keep them out | CBC News

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/london/ontario-wild-pigs-drafting-strategy-1.5996286

gcrank1
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# Posted: 11 Oct 2021 22:52
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Famous last words:
No worries, we've got this under control

KinAlberta
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# Posted: 15 Jul 2022 18:13 - Edited by: KinAlberta
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The Loop: Attack of the superpigs | CBC News

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/the-loop-attack-of-the-superpigs-1.6520811



Farmers in Scotland see wild boar pulling apart and eating sheep - BBC News

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-62163440

toyota_mdt_tech
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# Posted: 17 Jul 2022 20:34
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Wild Boar HarvestingURL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdsxEwcIbho

Timpo
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# Posted: 23 Aug 2022 08:09
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Hogs been running rampant around here, had to actually buy even more 223 ammo from https://gritrsports.com/shooting/ammunition/rifle-ammo/223-ammo/ 'cause I was actually running low from hunting those every weekend.

gcrank1
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# Posted: 23 Aug 2022 09:23
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Getting tired of eatin pig?
I know there are folks looking for opportunities to hunt wild boar, maybe you could be the 'guide'?

Timpo
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# Posted: 23 Aug 2022 10:52
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It's more about those hogs ruining my fences and crops, woke up the other day to the sound of 2 eating peppers I'm growing at my backyard

KinAlberta
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# Posted: 21 Feb 2023 21:44 - Edited by: KinAlberta
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More on the subject:

Population Explosion of Canadian “Super Pigs” Could Spread Into the Northern U.S.”A cross between wild boars and domestic pigs, these feral swine can survive cold climates and could create a whole new pig problem for northern states”

BY SAGE MARSHALL - PUBLISHED JAN 18, 2023

https://www.fieldandstream.com/conservation/canada-wild-pig-population-explosion/



Highly Intelligent Super Pigs Are Invading America: Details
“BY TIM NEWCOMB PUBLISHED: FEB 21, 2023”

https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/animals/a43010514/super-pig-invasion/




Wild 'super pigs' in Canada poised to wreak environmental havoc, spread disease in US, expert says

By Christine Rousselle

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/wild-super-pigs-in-canada-poised-to-wreak-enviro nmental-havoc-spread-disease-in-us-expert-says/ar-AA17MerG




Hogs are running wild in the U.S.—and spreading disease
By Jason Bittel


Today, around six million feral swine run hog wild in at least 35 U.S. states,
where they can grow more than five feet long and weigh more than 500 pounds. They’re adaptable creatures, capable of thriving in nearly any environment. For instance, the animals are also increasingly widespread on myriad Caribbean Islands and in Mexico, from the Baja to the Yucatán Peninsula, as well as Canada, where even deep snow and bitter cold can't slow them down. (Read how feral hogs are moving into Canada and building “pigloos.”)
…


https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/article/wild-hogs-swine-pigs-feral-us-dise ase-crops


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KinAlberta
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# Posted: 12 Apr 2023 18:01
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Just posting another recent reference to the Field and Stream article with an interesting quote:


Opinion: Watch out for Super Pigs! : NPR


"Wild hogs feed on anything," says Dr. Brook. "They gobble up tons and tons of goslings and ducklings in the spring. They can take down a whitetail deer, even an adult, not to mention the crop damage."


https://www.npr.org/2023/04/08/1168760276/opinion-watch-out-for-super-pigs



toyota_mdt_tech
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# Posted: 15 Apr 2023 22:52
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KinAlberta, have a good buddy from the island of Kauai and he hunted wild pigs with his uncle, he said they were so good. They could open a season on them, they did it in my state when they were first seen and it was no caliber restrictions, no license, no limit, no season. Had to be legal access places (no trespassing), ie permission or public land and sun up to sundownand expanding bullets (no aminal suffering) but aside from those rules, it was open season.

KinAlberta
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# Posted: 20 Apr 2023 15:03
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Well, they are spreading out of control, so why not.

KinAlberta
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# Posted: 21 Nov 2023 14:00 - Edited by: KinAlberta
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This article provides a few charts on the spread:

Which states have the worst wild hog problem?

Excerpt:

“Nearly 300 native plant and animal species in the U.S. are in rapid decline because of feral swine, and many of the species are already at risk, according to Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service.

The swine also carry at least 40 parasites, 30 bacterial and viral illnesses, and can infect ... ”
…

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/11/21/which-states-have-the-worst-wil d-hog-problem/71658126007/

toyota_mdt_tech
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# Posted: 23 Nov 2023 11:06
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Article showed up today about the canadian pigs coming to the US

Here Come the ‘Super Pigs’: Wild Crossbreed Boars Are Spreading Out of Control, Down From Canada to Northern US

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