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ThisOldCabinNJ
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# Posted: 25 Oct 2023 09:40 - Edited by: ThisOldCabinNJ
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Hey Folks,
i am a ways away from finishing my ceiling however I'm trying to get all my ducks [financially] in a row and thinking ahead. I plan to put up v-groove 'paneling' or boards as we'd call them up on my ceiling; I have a cathedraled ceiling. I like the look of v-groove boards and definately want them pre-finished. So the question here is: where did you get your v-groove boards from? I did a quick google search but wanted to real-life input from fellow cabin owners.
If anyone has a vendor they had a good experience with I'd love to check them out. I'm on the east coast (NJ particularly) if anyone is nearby. Im sure shipping can add up quick as some places I've found will ship 8' boards. I'm not particular to the length as long as the minimum length is 24" as my roof is 24" on center.
EDIT: I should mention I am looking particularly for PRE-FINISHED!!!!! I do not have the time, space or mental capacity to paint/spray 5 million boards (I don't need that many but it might as well be 5 million LOL)
Anyhow, thanks for your input!
-al
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darz5150
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# Posted: 25 Oct 2023 10:32
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Google bead board.
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Brettny
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# Posted: 25 Oct 2023 10:38
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I dont believe they come pre painted. They may come pre primed though. You should really call your local lumber yard and ask. This product is not typicaly something a big box store is going to carry.
The other option is to just pay someone to do the whole job.
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Steve_S
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# Posted: 25 Oct 2023 12:11
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In all my years, I have never seen prefinished (real wood) planks (beadboard or tongue & groove). I have seen MDF manufactured stuff that was finished but that is chemical heaven.
Generally it's 1/2" to 5/8" thick Pine (white or red) or cedar (white or red). Most of the time it requires light finish sanding prior to applying your finish coats.
TIP: Fast Drying water-based Polyurethane allows for a recoat in 2 hours and is fully dry within 24 hours.
Check your local lumber mills (Big Box = Big Price) and sometimes you can see 500% markup (no joke). Also look around at local mills & small millers in the country, most are quite amicable.
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Brettny
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# Posted: 26 Oct 2023 21:39
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I happen to stumble across this tonight.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Generic-1-in-x-6-in-x-8-ft-PVC-Beaded-Ceiling-Wall-Board- 208784/205158684?source=shoppingads&locale=en-US&pla&mtc=SHOPPING-BF-CDP-GGL-D21-021_ 005_BOARDS-NA-NA-NA-PMAX-NA-NA-NA-NA-NBR-NA-NA-NEW-NA&cm_mmc=SHOPPING-BF-CDP-GGL-D21- 021_005_BOARDS-NA-NA-NA-PMAX-NA-NA-NA-NA-NBR-NA-NA-NEW-NA-71700000115138518--&gclid=C jwKCAjwnOipBhBQEiwACyGLuru9cpHs5MlA3zbseZVoUzRRMafymwBLM6CMSWv0bbebLuWnOe0VGBoCGhUQAv D_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
PVC tongue and grove. Its pre painted as long as you want white. Idk if it can span 24in studs. Hold onto your shorts when you see the price.
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jsahara24
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# Posted: 27 Oct 2023 08:32
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We bought ours from a local lumber mill. They had different grades with of course different pricing.
We laid them out on sawhorses, pre-stained, stained and then put them up. Getting them prepped was a lot of work, but its worth it in the end...The look is hard to beat..
They are not cheap though....
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ThisOldCabinNJ
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# Posted: 27 Oct 2023 09:12
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Quoting: darz5150 darz5150 Member # Posted: 25 Oct 2023 10:32 Reply Quote Google bead board.
WOW! sage advice. I never would have thought of that on my own? (please note my sarcasm) I guess you didn't read my entire post as I already mentioned performing a google search and how I wanted real-life input from members here....:::facepalm:::
Anyhow, thank you for your personal input on the subject matter. I was looking to avoid having to stain and prep my own boards and hoping someone might have purchased pre-finished boards. Do you think the cost is THAT much less for raw material & time spent finishing them? Just curious.
For those who finished their own boards: where did you do it and how did you handle the storage of the boards? I have a very small space to work in (basement area) and spraying boards in my living room (albeit a little bigger of a space) isn't the most ideal for me. I have too many nice things I don't want covered in Shellac overspray.
I figured I would need to finish about 200+ 1x6 T&G boards at 8' length. Someone here luckily turned me on to a lumber yard in NY (BrettNY was that you? - New Hampton Lumber) that has fair priced T&G board and they'll deliver but again I still have to finish 200 boards with little to no space. Oh well, back to the drawing board.
thanks again!
-al
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Steve_S
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# Posted: 27 Oct 2023 10:10
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I did over 800 T&G Red & White pine planks. Shellac is great BUT there re several caveats, I used Shellac & Poly depending on location... kitchen, bathroom are poly for obvious reasons.
I rolled the poly with small speed roller.
Built a rack with 2x3's, with 4" between and laid all the planks to dry on there - reused the 2x3's for other project that followed after. (screw it together so you don't waste anything)
Do remember to coat teh joint areas. Some folks put butt to butt but I made a V-Groove cut so when boards butt together there is a nice groove instead.
V-Joint butt in-situ
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example with 45deg cut.
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gcrank1
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# Posted: 27 Oct 2023 10:14 - Edited by: gcrank1
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Do Not finish them even by brush in living areas indoors, especially a small place.
As to the product/look You want....few things worth while come cheap or easy, ya makes yer choice and ya pays yer money.
For consideration: It comes down to money and time; ie, what is the best use of yours?
Some people find they can work overtime or get a part time job to pay someone else easier than doing it themselves.
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Steve_S
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# Posted: 27 Oct 2023 10:48
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I know of ONE fellow who was cash lite but worked for a flooring manufacturer (wood plank) and he actually used finished floor planks for his cabin ceilings. It was amazing ! The wood was all the same dimensions but mixed types (they were odds & ends so he got it super cheap from his company) and he & his lovely wife got artistic with the colours and patterns.
That MAY be another option if prefinish is a must... Laminate flooring material can be quite nice but then there are many plank flooring companies around...
We have 1 locally and they have 3 sales a year where they sell off imperfect pieces (slight blem in the finish) and end run batches that may only have 400-500 square feet of material left... they sell it really cheap but you have to go there. Look around in your region and see if there are any flooring manufacturers etc... worth a look anyways.
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Aklogcabin
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# Posted: 27 Oct 2023 11:20
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I have 200 1x6 TnG pine boards to topcoat out at our cabin. I bought the lumber from HD, good price and really nice boards.
I plan on using a water based laquer and a roller. 1 coat on all sides, 2 coats on the face. I'll use a green scotchbrite on a drywall sanding stick and sand the face after the first coat. Or
probably just use a cabinet scraper. I prefer deft brand laquer topcoats.
Use may be able to get a custom wood working or cabinet shop to put a finish on the boards. Good luck n maybe a cold beers may help out
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NorthRick
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# Posted: 27 Oct 2023 22:47
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Quoting: ThisOldCabinNJ WOW! sage advice. I never would have thought of that on my own? (please note my sarcasm) I guess you didn't read my entire post as I already mentioned performing a google search and how I wanted real-life input from members here....:::facepalm:::
You ain't getting what you want. No need to be a d!#k about it. It comes pre-primed or bare wood. Painted or stained you either need to buck up and do it yourself or hire someone.
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Brettny
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# Posted: 5 Nov 2023 06:18
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Came across this on Marketplace today.
So someone does sell primed tongue and grove. Theres a website there so maybe you can find a more local supply house.
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rpe
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# Posted: 5 Nov 2023 17:38
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I've toured ReadyPine in Waterloo, Ontario, Canada, and they put out a very nice product. It's not cheap, but I was able to get a skid of seconds for a very reasonable price.
https://readypine.com/product
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Brettny
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# Posted: 6 Nov 2023 13:08
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How do you go about getting a skid of seconds? I need roughly 1200sqft of tongue and grove pine.
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DLNorth
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# Posted: 11 Nov 2023 17:32
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I/we have covered both the outside (NWC) and the inside with T&G. The inside is a mix of WRC, NWC, pine and Aspin(ceiling).
The cabin is 24x36, lots of surface to cover.
All T&G was sprayed with a linseed oil based clear preservative to "seal" all surfaces, this actually went fairly fast, each batch, maybe 40-50 boards were layed out and then sprayed with a low pressure garden sprayer. Less then 30 min per batch. (btw, all wood was climatized/stickered to come to a constant moisture level before spraying.)
After the prep work, it was cut and installed, using SS split proof siding nails. (results in no rust streaks)
After install, 2 coats of water based poly were applied, using a 6" foam pad. Again, vary fast - maybe 20 minutes for a 12x12 ceiling - no sanding or staining on any of it.
The only caveat is with the Aspen, it was often very hard and requires predrilling or it will split. No issues with either of the cedars or the pine.
Dan
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rpe
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# Posted: 12 Nov 2023 05:18
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Quoting: Brettny How do you go about getting a skid of seconds? I need roughly 1200sqft of tongue and grove pine.
I responded to an advert posted on FB Marketplace.
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Brettny
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# Posted: 12 Nov 2023 07:31
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Thanks Rpe
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Brettny
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# Posted: 12 Nov 2023 07:34
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Quoting: DLNorth er install, 2 coats of water based poly were applied, using a 6" foam pad. Again, vary fast - maybe 20 minutes for a 12x12 ceiling - no sanding or staining on any of it.
Does the water based poly go on easier and quicker than the oil based? I just did a 3'x7' book shelf and it took hours to poly, no sanding in between and I felt like it took hours. I also only did 2 coats on the frame and 1 on the shelves. I have a HVLP gun and a 60gal compressor. Would it be quicker to spray poly?
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Aklogcabin
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# Posted: 12 Nov 2023 10:20
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The waterborne poly dries faster so a benefit. First coat will swell the wood grains a bit n leave rougher surface. I would use green scotchbrite to lightly sand. I think I'll put some on a drywall sanding stick n use it this way.
My hvlp sprayer worked well sprayer either. I will probably use the waterborne laquer to finish my project. More forgiving if I need to fix something n reapply.
I was going to try using a pump up sprayer to apply it so there is less overspray.
Poly protects from moisture penitration better than laquer. And what I used on most furniture when I was running my woodworking shop. But on a cieling it won't get much wear.
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Brettny
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# Posted: 12 Nov 2023 19:10
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I plan on spraying this before I put it up. Prob one light coat on the back, flip and do the front and let dry.
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