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neb
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# Posted: 12 Jan 2014 13:44
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I have a question about Red Clover or White Clover. I want to broadcast hand seed in late winter with snow on the ground. I did some of this last spring but it was late and no snow. I planted Alfalfa in native grass and I got about 50% take on the seed. Any suggestions on which variety to plant red or white and have you done any frost seeding or snow seeding before? Thank you.
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turkeyhunter
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# Posted: 12 Jan 2014 14:12 - Edited by: turkeyhunter
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I plant white red/white/ & yuchi clovers /with other cereal grains in the FALL in my food plots on my 1000 acre lease and on my farm as well.....
I bottom plow in the later summer and broadcast lime//let set for 3 weeks /harrow and plant 1st week of Sept. and fertilize when I pant and again mid winter....my plots look great and lots of wildlife use then...deer/turkeys/birds/small game.
In spring my clover will be 12 inches high....even with lots of deer grazing on it.
( Neb--I thought for a second you were moving to Colorado and start 420 Farming ))....:LOL)
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neb
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# Posted: 12 Jan 2014 15:24 - Edited by: neb
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Quoting: turkeyhunter ( Neb--I thought for a second you were moving to Colorado and start 420 Farming))....:LOL)
I'm laughing with you but I don't get it!! I know I'm slow TH. Now I get it!!!! I sold a nice farm with irrigation that would of produced a lot of that funny stuff. LOL I could take a trip and never leave to farm. LOL
TH I wish I could get equipment in to my place but that won't happen. Everything is by hand and makes it hard to do it right. Thanks for the help. Will clover reseed itself or chut up new growth from roots and start a new plant.
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Just
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# Posted: 12 Jan 2014 15:27
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51 YEARS A FARMER. NEB on top of 3 in of snow is the best hear in Ontario but you may have a different climate . march 15 th or so here. white clover can grow 5 ft high but is the cheapest to bye. Double cut red would be my choice ,last till late fall..
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neb
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# Posted: 12 Jan 2014 15:35
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Just
Thanks Just you came to my rescue once again! I knew you where a farmer but forgot about that. I will get some white clover and see what happens. I use your dates to seed and would most likely be about the same time here to seed anyway. Glad to hear from you again and hope you are doing better each day.
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ErinsMom
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# Posted: 12 Jan 2014 16:30
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Here in NE TN, my family planted white. Grows well.
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old243
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# Posted: 12 Jan 2014 22:43
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Neb are you trying to establish, a permanent pasture that will stay for a few years, or a food plot for deer etc? I am going to plant a food plot, this spring that I hope will last several years. Red clover will come on strong the first year, but tends to taper off the next years. White dutch ladino clover , is my favorite. Once you get it established it will keep reseeding itself, the seed is quite expensive but you only need about 2 pound to the acre, as the seeds are small.
I plan. on using red, white dutch, a bit of timothy. Will plant with a cover crop of mixed grain , planted thinly so it doesn,t smother the clovers.
A question for turkey , would I be better to summer fallow the plot and plant it , the end of August like you suggest. Do you get your seed at the local seed dealer or a premixed .product. Old243
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neb
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# Posted: 12 Jan 2014 23:06
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old243
I would say food plot for wildlife. I have some nice long draws that i would like to plant for all season crop for wildlife. I would like something that would reseed. What comes up would just add some value to the native grass that is there.
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Just
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# Posted: 13 Jan 2014 07:21
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sweet white clover is about 2.50 a lb and you need 5 lb. to the acre.
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Rossman
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# Posted: 13 Jan 2014 12:20
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Where do you buy your clover seed? I would love to add more yummy things for wildlife to eat on our land!
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Just
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# Posted: 13 Jan 2014 14:58
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any farm supply store
TSE co-op ,, one acre =100 ft. by 410 ft
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old243
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# Posted: 15 Jan 2014 12:56
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If you want something that will stay a long time, I have used , birdsfoot trefoil. I broadcast it in pastures, it was there for many years. goes to seed early september around here. The first year you may not see , much growth, but once it is established, it will stay. I think Leo was the variety I used but not sure. Old243
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neb
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# Posted: 15 Jan 2014 19:17 - Edited by: neb
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Old243
I will check it out THANKS. How does it do in dry parts of the year?
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Just
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# Posted: 15 Jan 2014 20:07
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trefoil is a good choice, very tough plant
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neb
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# Posted: 15 Jan 2014 21:08 - Edited by: neb
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Man that is some high priced seed! I will see where I can order at the lowest cost. Shipping just kills the deal. Thank Just and Old243.
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Rossman
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# Posted: 16 Jan 2014 21:22 - Edited by: Rossman
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Quoting: Just any farm supply store
Thank you sir!
My soil is kind of crappy at my site, but there are already tons of wildflowers...is clover picky about soil conditions?
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neb
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# Posted: 16 Jan 2014 23:07
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Clover likes a better soil but trefoil will grow in poor soil. At least this is what I'm reading.
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Bevis
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# Posted: 18 Jan 2014 13:26
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Quoting: neb Quoting: turkeyhunter( Neb--I thought for a second you were moving to Colorado and start 420 Farming))....:LOL)I'm laughing with you but I don't get it!!
 I got that one...
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neb
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# Posted: 15 Mar 2014 19:42
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Well I broad casted white clover today. It snowed about 2 inches of snow and I thought I better try to get it in. I will have the freeze/thaw thing for a while yet and I hope I got it seeded at the right time. I had a backpack in the seed and hand broadcater over a mile one way. To wet to drive in and maybe a while till that happens. It flooded here very bad and some homes are gone to the flood. My sons shack maybe gone but it will take some time before we can get into it.
Anyway I hope I got it planted at the right time. I got a picture of the flooded bottom ground and it is not good. The one picture you can see a field that is pick corn fiels those stalks are about 4 to 5 feet tall. The other picture is in the direction of my sons shack about 3 miles away. Doesn't look good and hoping for the best.
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turkeyhunter
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# Posted: 16 Mar 2014 06:54
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Neb--hope your farming goes well this spring....and hope your Sons camp will me salvageable,,,keep us updates...
Lots of water in those pic's
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neb
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# Posted: 16 Mar 2014 08:01
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TH will do. Spring means gobble,gobble, gobble time are you ready? I haven't seen a turkey for a few weeks now. Not sure what the flooding has done for the them.
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Just
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# Posted: 6 Apr 2014 07:47
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son and grandson spreading clover seed this morning .there is still snow in the fence rows . they worked most of the night using a GPS.
not sure how that works but the rows look perfectly strait this morning
saw three turkey in the bush yesterday ,
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neb
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# Posted: 6 Apr 2014 09:32
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JUST>> good to hear from you again! First how are you doing and you been back doing what you like to do???
Let me know how your seeding goes. I spread my in March and have had rain, snow and sleet a few times since then. That is what the doctor called for so I hope things take off once that sun starts to shine.
Did a lttle scouting yesterday and saw 7 nice toms doing the waltz on their dance floor. LOL Always fun to watch them even more then hunting them.
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Just
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# Posted: 6 Apr 2014 10:12
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Tractor driving is over for me Neb, but I feel good and am enjoying retirement .I have both the cabins open for the season and am looking forward to lots of outdoor time after a long winter of convalescing . Good luck with the turkeys ,season opens here on AP .15 TH .
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neb
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# Posted: 6 Apr 2014 18:10
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As many years as you have farmed you deserve to retire and take life easy. Good for you! Do you do any turkey hunting?
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Just
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# Posted: 6 Apr 2014 18:17
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no turkey hunting in the past do to spring was my busy time seeding , but maybe I will start now ???
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neb
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# Posted: 6 Apr 2014 19:22
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JUST>>>Give it a try and enjoy the sounds and the outdoors. I really could care less if I get one but enjoy being out there.
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turkeyhunter
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# Posted: 6 Apr 2014 19:53
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Quoting: Just but maybe I will start now ???
you should!!! it a nice time to be out in the woods~~
I been 3 morning ~~saw turkeys every time out....our season has been open 2 weeks.....
I got a nice Tom ...20 lbs...10 inch beard the 3rd day of season. I grilled one breast in strips ( soaked in zesty Italian dressing for 6 hours before I grilled) and cooked the other breast in oven with celery and carrots....and froze the legs and thighs for a couple turkey pot pies..later in the year. Those wild turkey are some kind of fine~ eatin!!!
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neb
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# Posted: 6 Apr 2014 21:19
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TH you just made me hungry! Ours start on Sat. and just came from my hunting grounds. I wasn't sure if I could drive in there yet but I can and will be setting up the blind tomorrow night. I did a little calling and a tom sounded off right off the bat.!!! I got out of there in a hurry. How many turkeys can you get TH?
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turkeyhunter
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# Posted: 6 Apr 2014 22:00
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Quoting: neb How many turkeys can you get TH?
3 toms per spring season....
good luck on your season...
not headed
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