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LeeMn
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# Posted: 30 Nov 2024 11:23pm
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Very substantial. They look nice.
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toyota_mdt_tech
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# Posted: 1 Dec 2024 12:28pm - Edited by: toyota_mdt_tech
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Thanks ICC, coming from a fellow metal fab guy means a lot. I been thinking on this design for a long time, wanted it simple, wanted it easy to mass produce, didnt want all differnt types of metal or any mitered cuts and when I came upon the barrel hinges, the light went off. I thought of bars but this is better to protect from branches etc. The expanded metal was $100 for 4X8 sheet, I will need to pick up one more sheet to finish the final 2 windows, frames all done, just add the mesh and paint.
After I got the mesh on, the angle iron cover did shrink or curl a tiny bit, so barrel hinges at the top didnt align. I did drill out cup end of hinges 1/16" larger and counter bored or chamfered the opening for easy indexing, but in the end, I had to cut off one barrel cup and reweld it in its new shape. Small 5 minute set back, but didnt think the angle iron would curl. I have tried welding a few on one side, move to the next, then top and bottom to keep heat to a minimum, no help.
I have allowed 1/4" gap all around the window probably drill some small drain holes to allow water to drain out the bottom.
Here is a few I have completed including paint.
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toyota_mdt_tech
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# Posted: 6 Dec 2024 08:12am
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OK, all done except the mesh for the last 2 windows, picking up a 4X8 sheet of the expanded metal this Saturday AM at the metal supply store, then to glue it in place (weld), then paint job, then load and strap down into trailer for spring run.
On to next project. 
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toyota_mdt_tech
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# Posted: 8 Dec 2024 07:05pm
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Mesh for the last 2 windows are cut and glued (welded) in place and painted. All 6 window covers done. Closed issue. Next photos will be of them installed on the cabin in spring.
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ICC
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# Posted: 8 Dec 2024 10:23pm
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CharlieMichael
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# Posted: 22 Nov 2025 04:31am
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Quoting: LeeMn I am gutting our 1970's hunting cabin in northern WI. We have it down to the studs and replacing windows soon. it is right on a dirt road and ATV/snowmobile route. Frequent traffic. We have owned it since 2020 and was broken into many times over the years. Our shed was broken into this Feb. There is no electricity within miles of cabin. Right now we have plywood sheets on hinges on outside of cabin that have toggle bolts through the window frame and secured with wingnuts on inside of cabin. Looking for better design for preventing people from breaking in. Any ideas?
Consider removable steel/security bars or reinforced polycarbonate panels for the windows. Add solar-powered motion lights or alarms to deter break-ins—layering physical barriers with visibility works best.
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toyota_mdt_tech
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# Posted: 22 Nov 2025 11:58am - Edited by: toyota_mdt_tech
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Just realized I post pictures of them all installed.
I found they look so nice, I dont even remove them when I am there except one for emergency egress.
When a window is open, doesn't impede air flow or really obstruct view being in black.
I have added 4 retainers, 2 on the top, 2 on the bottom, this is to allow me to slide in a chunk of that white cement board you put under tile floors. They slide right in, slide out when there, good fire protection also.
While I was doing these installs, I also installed a steel mesh screen over the gable vents to stop blowing embers. It did have a nice nylon screen for small bugs, but needed more.
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philpom
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# Posted: 11 Dec 2025 07:00pm - Edited by: philpom
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I used 3/4" plywood and cut them to form shutters. Dressed them up with 1x4 slats and stained them with rediseal. They are on security hinges. When the place is open for business they look great, when we are away for a time they close over the windows 100%. They are padlocked from the inside with steel gate latches.
I cut another 4'x4' piece of 3/4" plywood that is slotted in each corner. 3" U bolts are embedded in the wall to the left and right of the front door. The board hangs on the U bolts and where they come through the 4 slots I put 4 padlocks. Stronger than the wall. There is a section of the back screened porch that is level with the front deck. That area has sections of rod iron fence behind the screen. The rest of the screened in porch is about 12' off the ground. The back door goes to the screened porch but so pretty safe but it has two 2x4 slipped in brackets to bolster that door on the inside.
I have the usual no trespassing, smile your on camera, warning stealth cameras in use signs etc plus multiple cameras.
We had 1 break in through a window prior to these things many years ago. They took a box fan, washboard, cot, and some #10 cans of freeze dried food. We found the food in the forest many years later.....
The area has changed over the years, many of the outlaws have moved or died. Everyone up there now just wants the same thing I do. I have met many of my neighbors and we keep an eye out for each other. Last idea, meet the neighbors and do something nice for them.
When we first bought the land we stopped by a neighbors shack, nobody was there but he had a sign in the window, "don't bother the crazy person" turned out to be one of the good outlaw neighbors. Always happy to swing by and drink beer and watch while I worked LOL.
Some additional ideas for folks.
Cheers
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KinAlberta
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# Posted: 20 Dec 2025 04:31pm
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Quoting: toyota_mdt_tech pictures of them all installed.
I’d suggest replacing those padlocks with disc padlocks.
In the past thieves used boltcutters on our padlocks. It’s was easy for them to snip the padlock right off.
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toyota_mdt_tech
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# Posted: 20 Dec 2025 06:16pm
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Yes, but these are all keyed same as every lock on the place and anyone would just get a dewalt angle grinder. Its enough of a deterrent the average thief would just go to a easier target.
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DaveBell
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# Posted: 21 Dec 2025 04:03am
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Quoting: toyota_mdt_tech Its enough of a deterrent the average thief would just go to a easier target.
Toy, good physical security thinking. As I said in my previous post above, nothing is 100%. Make enough of a delay, they will move on to easy targets. Excellent job on the window frames. One improvement might be to move the lock tabs to the inside. They can still angle grinder the frame work but they will be at it for a while and be making alot of noise. Bad guys like to be quick, quiet, and not be seen. So we don't provide them with quick, quiet, and not be seen. Consider adding cellular motion cameras. I posted these and more security principles on an ATV forum and was praised by police. Another idea to buy a junk car or truck and leave it parked there. Just have to wash it once or twice a year so it looks usable.
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Brettny
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# Posted: 21 Dec 2025 07:53am
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You can make all the window deterants you want and figure out many ways to make them angle grinder proof and in 2min they could just cut a hole in your wall with a chainsaw.
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