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travellerw
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# Posted: 13 Sep 2021 14:09
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Since I can't seem to adjust the picture sizes in my last thread, I thought I would start a new thread of my progress instead.Things have been progressing slowly. Sigh, one person can only build so fast!

We had a picker truck out this weekend to finish off all the roof truss lifting and help with some of the sheathing on the uppers. This is one area I knew would be tough, but probably underestimated how tough. Its high up, very sloped and with nothing to hang onto. It makes very slow going to do it safely. A fear of heights would definitely not be good here.

Actually, its going slow enough that I'm considering bringing in a tow-able boom lift for a week. The weekly rate is only 3 times the daily rate, so that makes sense. With a boom lift, I should be able to finish both the sheathing and metal roof in a week (probably less).

We also tallied up all our expenses and I'm right on budget. However, I think this is an area that people building something like this underestimate. This is based on conversations I had with people when I was in the planning stages. They were shocked at what I thought it would cost. A building like this costs real money and your not going to get away with a 10K budget. Especially with upgraded wall heights, joist depths (2X8), flooring thickness, metal roof, ect, ect). That stuff adds up fast and really ups the budget.

Anyway, I hope to keep this thread going as I move forward in hopes it will help someone else down the road.
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travellerw
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# Posted: 13 Sep 2021 14:15
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Here is a few extra pics for anyone interested.
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WILL1E
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# Posted: 13 Sep 2021 14:23
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Great progress travellerw!

Do you mind sharing where you're at budget wise at this point?

travellerw
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# Posted: 13 Sep 2021 14:33 - Edited by: travellerw
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At this point we have bought everything to complete the shell EXCEPT the metal roof materials. Doors, windows, all lumber, sheet materials, ect have all been purchased.

Nothing for interior has been purchased including insulation and vapour barrier.

At this point we have spent $12000cdn or $9500USD. This does not include fuel or the picker truck (that was loaned to us).

We expect the metal roofing materials to be about $1800cdn and boom rental around $1000.

While COVID definitely upped the price, it wasn't that much of an impact for us. My wife happens to work for a large construction company and we got to take advantage of their buying power. That helped offset the COVID inflated costs.

Once everything is completed, I fully expect this project to be in the $22000-$23000cdn range.

P.S. For those shocked at that cost.. Ask yourself "What does a new RV cost?". That is how I justified everything!

snobdds
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# Posted: 13 Sep 2021 14:45
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Good work. Building with high walls and steep roof lines make for slow going. It will be worth it.

I have a 34x28 under roof, which includes the covered porches. I have all the outside done and electrical and plumbing in with a bathroom. I'm at 35k. Interior, I am planning on anther 12k. I have done all the work myself. So you're in the ballpark.

gcrank1
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# Posted: 13 Sep 2021 15:05
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Good perspective point of 'what does a new RV cost', and those things are built to fail.

WILL1E
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# Posted: 13 Sep 2021 15:37
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Thanks for sharing travellerw! That's about spot on with what i have estimated in my tracker.

Quoting: travellerw
P.S. For those shocked at that cost.. Ask yourself "What does a new RV cost?". That is how I justified everything!

AMEN!! The monthly loan payment on our 5th wheel is my regular reminder I need to get this cabin built so we can sell that thing and hopefully downsize to something more economical than the 1-ton truck i drive for a camper we haven't hauled since we bought the land!

WILL1E
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# Posted: 14 Sep 2021 15:03 - Edited by: WILL1E
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Did you secure your beams to your concrete pads? Interested in the details around that area.

Also, what grade/species lumber did you use for your joist?

travellerw
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# Posted: 14 Sep 2021 15:17 - Edited by: travellerw
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Lumber is KD SPF #1 or #2 depending on where I used it.. However #2 would have been suitable for everything (which is standard at HomeDepot). SPF #2 can span 14'6" with 40 PSF live load. My floor joists are #1 since the supplier carried that, but my loft joists are #2 and only 2X8 since the loft is supported a wall down the center underneath (bedroom wall).

My beams are not secured to my pads, but I have hurricane/tornado anchors. Essentially screw piles that are driven 6ft. Then you dig 1 ft out around the pile and fill it with concrete. Steel cables attach the beams to the anchors. The floor joists are connected to the beams with hurricane clips. Its a common method to secure mobile homes around here. The screw piles can be driven by hand (with a long lever) or you can rent a auger machine to drive them. We drove by hand, but it was a ton of work and pretty tiring even with a 10ft lever. Driving by hand is really only an option before you start building, otherwise the building gets in the way.

WILL1E
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# Posted: 14 Sep 2021 15:49
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My local HD and Menards only have #2 and it would either be SPF or Yellow Pine. So now i'm suddenly contemplating whether or not i should add a 3rd beam down the middle since i'll be right on the edge of the span limit.

travellerw
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# Posted: 14 Sep 2021 16:39
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I wouldn't (and didn't).. The span tables are there for a reason and the safety factor is already built in. #2 SPF is good for 14'6" (so if you do a 6 inch cantilever on each end you are under that as you take the beam into account). Yellow pine is good for 15'8", so again you are under that. (this is all 16 inch on center). You can bet that house builders are building to these exact dimensions too.

You could do 12" on center and get 15'11 for SPF #2.. Or you could up the joists to a 2X12@16" on center, which would give you a crazy strong floor.

To me, all wasted money, but it your build and money! I just think it could be put somewhere else for better results.

WILL1E
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# Posted: 21 Sep 2021 08:57
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travellerw how's the progress going? Any new photos to share with us?!

travellerw
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# Posted: 21 Sep 2021 11:52
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Now that all the high up stuff is required, things are moving slow. Take a ton of time to climb up and down a 12ft scaffold.

I'm actually leaving tomorrow night for 10 days of straight work. I have rented a boom for 7 of those to finish the roof completely (sheathing, and metal roof). I should have it completely buttoned up when done.

WILL1E
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# Posted: 21 Sep 2021 12:46
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Good luck!! I'll be watching for updates (and tips/tricks) as i'm only a few weeks worth of progress behind you!

gcrank1
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# Posted: 21 Sep 2021 12:52
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Well, it is snowing in Alaska and Fall came on early down here 30mi. N of Madison.
Good Luck and Stay Safe!

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