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MtnDon
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# Posted: 20 Apr 2025 11:42am
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I have wondered if there would be some sort of tax implications. I am not familiar with the legal details but if the person who donated the car received a receipt for a tax deduction what rules does the school have to follow? Are there rules in place of how the car is disposed of? Perhaps there is a time limit before it can be passed along? Maybe you would get a 1099 form for the value of any tax deduction that was given? Again, I am not familiar with all the details regarding donations.that receive a tax deduction. If there was any deduction in this case.
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paulz
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# Posted: 28 Apr 2025 10:07am
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So a week ago I got the fiscal department to write my teacher, requesting a phone call to talk over the car. At class Saturday I asked my teacher if he’d been contacted, he said no, and reiterated they could not give it to me due to liability. Why there was apparently no contact between them I don’t know.
At this point I have only one more class this spring to trip over the dang thing still siting there. Maybe there will be some progress, doubt it. If it were AWD for cabin use I’d be much more forceful, but in a week or two it will be out of sight and mind.
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gcrank1
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# Posted: 28 Apr 2025 10:19am
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You may well be saved from yourself by that 
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paulz
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# Posted: 28 Apr 2025 04:07pm
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Probably so. Also was looking at you tubes of guys pulling the engines out of old small cars and replacing with electric! Interesting, if I were 20 years younger. Hot toddlers of this century.
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paulz
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# Posted: 21 May 2025 12:39pm
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Last day of class last week, it’s still sitting there, main teacher still says no. I’m over it.
Partly because my best friend just took delivery of a 2025 Hylander, making me more of a cheap caveman than I already am. He ordered it 6 months ago, built in Japan. Thought he was in for tariffs but I gues he escaped that, still not cheap. It’s a hybrid, AWD, blah blah. He says great to drive, haven’t been in it yet.
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gcrank1
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# Posted: 21 May 2025 12:44pm
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Way these car prices have gone around here (ie $20k for a 10 year old car with 80k + miles!) and the new car prices I hope both ours keep running until I drop.
Hate to think of having to decide between food, meds or car payments 
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paulz
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# Posted: 22 May 2025 07:22am - Edited by: paulz
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That new Hylander was a bit over 50k. But yeah, I’ve been browsing a bit, and the used stuff we used to get for under 5k (I paid 4k for my ‘newest’ 99 Ranger) is now double that.
What’s killing me is gas mileage. I get about 13. I don’t drive much, back and forth to the cabin once or twice a week, shopping around town. Haven’t checked the bills but I bet it’s another 4k a year. At some point that 50k hybrid sounds pretty good. And why that free electric Toyota made sense. My driveway is fantastic right now, 2wd no problem. But that will end. I was hoping the Tesla owners who dislike Musk now would be dumping those things cheap, hasn’t happened.
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jsahara24
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# Posted: 22 May 2025 12:56pm
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We have a 2019 Highlander, we got it b/c we have had good experiences with Toyota....Unfortunately our transmission went bad at 70k miles...Had to do a complete replacement, not a good time....Otherwise we love the car but it definitely is making me rethink my next vehicle....
What is gas going for out in CA? I paid 3.10 yesterday to fill up in PA.
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paulz
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# Posted: 22 May 2025 01:52pm
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Over 5 a gallon! You might find a high 4 if you drive around. My pal says 21 mpg so far, was hoping for 36. 4 banger hybrid.
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jsahara24
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# Posted: 23 May 2025 08:51am
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Ouch! We get 21mpg easily in our 6 cylinder highlander....if I'm driving on the highway I can get around 27mpg if I keep my speed around 65...
Maybe it just needs to get broken in?
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MtnDon
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# Posted: 23 May 2025 09:03am - Edited by: MtnDon
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Is the right foot too heavy? Heavy loads? Mountain terrain? That 21 seems too far off the EPA est of 36. If I drive in a non-sporting manner my Honda can achieve the EPA combined average. 5500 foot alt, some hills.
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gcrank1
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# Posted: 23 May 2025 09:06am
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Kia Sportage, 2wd, v6, 'o8, 123K
Get 23.4ish mixed but lots of highway to&from cabin.
Our BP is right now at $2.95 nl reg (he is pretty much at the low end of cost for here) BUT, we also get a 15c discount at pump belonging to the BP 'club'(whatever they call it)
BP has been good to us 
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paulz
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# Posted: 23 May 2025 09:30am
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Quoting: jsahara24 Maybe it just needs to get broken in?
That’s what he’s hoping..
I don’t know squat about hybrids. He says from a stop the electric goes, but the 4 banger takes over pretty quickly. We’re at sea level, mostly flat.
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paulz
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# Posted: 23 May 2025 08:29pm
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Heard from new owner. They took the new car on 25 mile highway run in slight traffic, said 30mpg. I guess it has a computer readout right on the dash (good thing I don’t have that). The 21 before was just around town.
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gcrank1
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# Posted: 23 May 2025 10:20pm
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Those mpg computers take some miles to average out after a fill. You can -0- them too anytime but I generally let mine just go tank after tank, figure my overall average is what I want to know.
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MtnDon
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# Posted: 24 May 2025 12:18am
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The car computer readings are not to be trusted until you know the error they produce. A real, old fashioned fill the tank and record the actual miles driven for at least one full tank is best. I have always found the cars computed MPG to be erroneous.
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paulz
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# Posted: 24 May 2025 07:25am
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Quoting: MtnDon A real, old fashioned fill the tank and record the actual miles driven
That’s what us poor guys do. I’m so used to going 200 miles on 15 gallons I don’t have to write it down. My EPA sticker says it should get 3 more mpg but with 200k miles I guess the compression is down, even though no oil consumption and good power. Filter and plugs good.
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toyota_mdt_tech
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# Posted: 24 May 2025 11:38am - Edited by: toyota_mdt_tech
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Quoting: paulz That’s what he’s hoping.. I don’t know squat about hybrids. He says from a stop the electric goes, but the 4 banger takes over pretty quickly. We’re at sea level, mostly flat.
He will get probably about 35-38 on the highway, around 40+ in town.
Its electric with gasoline assist. He can take off from a start on just electric, its all in how hard he pedals it. Usually the electric will quickly power up MG3 (rear axle motor) to get it moving, then it is turned off and uses FWD only after he gets going. He can change his monitor display to see power flow, including generating (charging HV) and regenerative braking. On hard braking, you will hear those motors whine and slows down pretty quick as the system loads the motors, all this is done with little to no hydraulic breaking.
He has 3 motor generators, MG1 starts the gas engine and charges the HV battery if its called for.
MG2 drives the front wheels and also charges the battery. Under heavy accel, MG1 can divert power right to MG2. Anytime the "READY" light is on, the smaller 12V battery is charging, engine running or not. It uses the DC to DC converter inside the inverter to step down and regulate 12V battery charging.
MG3 is the rear axle, its added for 4WD or regenerative braking.
AC compressor is a scroll type, uses a 3 phase AC motor and runs on 48VAC. Also uses special AC compressor oil that is not electrically conductive or ND11 oil, spendy stuff. Do not contaminate it with anythign else or motor winding will break down and leak. Refrigerant is YF1234A
There is a boost feature where the inverter can boost voltage to closer to 600VAC for hard accel in short burst, otherwise, around 275 volts AC.
As a technician, this transaxle so much simpler than the regular auto, there is also no drive belts on the engine, no starter motor, no alternator like we normally think of them, no transfer case or rear drive shaft.
Inverter system has its own cooling system, also electric water pump, trans-axle is cooled with oil, has its own electric oil pump and heat exchanger and uses ATF fluid (Type WS) and I have seen collision damage where this system si opened and some fluid lost, body shop hooks line up and seems to run OK, so figure all is good, trans-axle overheats (will give warnings first) and turns into a very spendy repair.
I have 2 hybrids, a 19 RAV4, 38 highway and 42 in town. Also a 12 PriusV and closer to 48 in down, about 38 to 40 highway
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gcrank1
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# Posted: 24 May 2025 12:28pm
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WOW, tech talk for sure!
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paulz
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# Posted: 25 May 2025 10:21am
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Sure is, thanks tmt! Forwarded..
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toyota_mdt_tech
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# Posted: 27 May 2025 08:39pm
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Quoting: gcrank1 WOW, tech talk for sure!
Then there is plug in hybrid, a semi different animal. 
Thanks.
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MtnDon
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# Posted: 27 May 2025 10:29pm - Edited by: MtnDon
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Quoting: toyota_mdt_tech plug in hybrid
I like those. I have a friends Volvo XC60 Recharge PHEV (plugin hybrid electric vehicle) as a loaner while he spends a year out of the country. It can drive about 40+ miles before the engine starts up (depending on A/C use. On a normal day about town that is usually sufficient.
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toyota_mdt_tech
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# Posted: 28 May 2025 03:58pm
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Don, yes, basically an electric but you dont need to be worried about finding a charge station like a all EV. The AC is a heat pump on those, the system knows your drive route and how much energy is needed based on past, includes regenerative braking, so it develops a memory for your needs, can plug it in and never run the gas engine. And program to charge off peak times when electricity is cheaper and with it knowing your route, ie work route, it will charge only what is needed.
HV battery is of course, much larger. I think the RAV4 PHV is rated for 125MPG, but if fuel gets to old, will set a code and let you know you have to burn some gas.
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MtnDon
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# Posted: 28 May 2025 05:07pm - Edited by: MtnDon
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Quoting: toyota_mdt_tech dont need to be worried about finding a charge station like a all EV
The area of NM that we frequent does not have enough stations to make me feel comfortable with an EV. Some are in inconvenient places, though they are 24/7.
I do like like this Volvo; probably too much.  It can be driven to our cabin if it has not rained recently and on a good day or halfway good weekend (sunny) the cabin solar can make enough power to recharge the battery. Finding a reasonably priced and suitable small to medium size PHEV SUV is not easy though.
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toyota_mdt_tech
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# Posted: 29 May 2025 07:38am
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Quoting: MtnDon Finding a reasonably priced and suitable small to medium size PHEV SUV is not easy though.
Uh, Toyota RAV4 Prime. Problem solved. 
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DRP
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# Posted: 29 May 2025 09:49pm
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Getting into the nuts and bolts of how they work, I've enjoyed John Kelly's EV teardown videos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w71K8LEJEZk
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paulz
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# Posted: 19 Jun 2025 11:35am
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I enrolled in summer class. The Rav EV is still there haunting me. Same old story from the teacher, “Can’t let you have/buy it, now go away.” They even moved it out of the way from blocking other stuff. The scrapper guy told me it will just get cut up and go to the recycle yard with all the other junk. What a waste.
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MtnDon
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# Posted: 19 Jun 2025 01:07pm
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I just remembered I bookmarked this. Looks good, better than many youtube videos
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