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KinAlberta
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# Posted: 7 Aug 2020 23:11 - Edited by: KinAlberta
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Quoting: ICC

I believe that what some people call freedom is actually an absence of personal responsibility.

We are all in this together and need to cooperate as a group to have the best outcom


May have said this before. I think of my own father. Worked hard in school, skipped two grades, and at something like 15 or 16 got into engineering but left after three years to enroll in the armed forces. Renounced his US citizenship to do so as the US wasn’t fighting and he had dual citizenship). When your people are threatened by a real and deadly enemy you step up. Simple.

hattie
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# Posted: 9 Aug 2020 12:46 - Edited by: hattie
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Just sayin'....

WEAR A MASK!!!!!
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95XL883
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# Posted: 9 Aug 2020 13:40
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Gee. So many miscellaneous thoughts on this.

Masks? Like a lot of gvt regulations, they shouldn’t be mandatory. My family and I wear them by our choice, partly to minimize the chance of infection and partly to be considerate of others’ fears and concerns. The real problem I have with some of the non-mask wearers is some seem to want to breath/contaminate things. I was in a convenience store where I witnessed a young Hispanic male open a hot dog bun container, hold it to his mouth, breath on it, close the container, put in back in the drawer and grab another one. Before he could open it. I was in his face very loudly asking why he was doing that. I expected a fight but he got very timid and went to a different part of the store. I threw Theo e he breathed on away. Some people are just jerks.

Confinement policies- so sorry to hear of old people being isolated. It is not right and does seem to be a death sentence. Some hospitals have lost their humanity. I can see a restrictive policy but total isolation is cruel. A way needs to be found to include loved ones in a person’ care.

Covid exposure- I don’t know anybody who had tested positive or shown covid symptoms. I travel for work and try hard to minimize my exposure. Lots of hand washing, social distancing and avoiding the real busy highway rest stops, the ones with gas and food courts.

I know of two people who committed suicide after a couple of months of lockdown/isolation. The belief is the isolation and job losses were too much for them. Another person knew they had a serious issue but avoided the hospital due to fear. They finally had to go, got a pacemaker. Hospital limited visitors to one close family member at a time. Sent her home after three days in the hospital. I doubt she would have survived a nursing home. She is in her 80’s.

A good hospital story. Daughter took dad to see mom in the hospital. The screening nurse at the entrance looked at the 80’s dad and said it was a long walk to where his wife was. He should be in a wheelchair. Dad injected until daughter pointed out she would be pushing the chsir and get to see mom. Still only one person at a time in the room but they Both got to see her. Good on that screening nurse.

I am working on my fitness. I walk five a day. Have been for almost three years. I have added 30 minutes of cardio/stair master four times a week, I have lost ten pounds.

Stay safe and healthy everyone. Be careful but not scared to submission. Be empathetic, a lot of people seem to have little to no problem with this while others are scared to death or have high co-morbidities. And realize there are some that use any excuse to control others or justify their own bad behavior. As my mother used to say “do your best and be nice.”.

FishHog
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# Posted: 10 Aug 2020 08:37
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That’s awesome hattie

paulz
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# Posted: 10 Aug 2020 09:28
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Aside from the safety/legal/personal choice aspects of mask wearing, there is an interesting social dimension going on; not being able to see the bulk of facial expression. I don't get out in public much (groceries, hardware store's about it) but I seem to notice people actually being more polite. Maybe it's because they can't see the dog tired scowl I usually wear. Or it's just the 'we can get through this together mentality'. Maybe we ought to keep on wearing them afterward.

ICC
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# Posted: 10 Aug 2020 10:52
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Quoting: FishHog
That’s awesome hattie



ICC
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# Posted: 10 Aug 2020 18:12
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How does this fit into many current thoughts on freedom and government?

Government is instituted for the common good; for the protection, safety, prosperity, and happiness of the people; and not for profit, honor, or private interest of any one man, family, or class of men; therefore, the people alone have an incontestable, unalienable, and indefeasible right to institute government; and to reform, alter, or totally change the same, when their protection, safety, prosperity, and happiness require it.”
~ John Adams
(1735-1826) Founding Father, 2nd US President
Thoughts on Government, 1776

http://libertytree.ca/quotes/John.Adams.Quote.8290

darz5150
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# Posted: 10 Aug 2020 20:56 - Edited by: darz5150
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Here's some more actual facts about covid regulations. My mom tested negative for the virus.
I tested negative for the virus. I was still denied any chance to visit her during her recovery/solitary confinement. Again... 2 negatives does not make a positive.
When she was locked down as per regulations. She was alive, breathing, talking, and all vital signs were undeniable medical proof of that.
Although she DID NOT HAVE COVID. She was put in quarantine for observation. When she was locked down. She was alive, breathing, and body temperature of 98.6. The next time she left the room. She was dead, and at room temperature!
Although she was quarantined as per regulations to keep everyone safe and for observation. That didn't seem to work out.
I am attaching a pic of the actual death certificate.
Take a look at the line where it officially states on the record, date last seen alive.
Death certificate
Death certificate


darz5150
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# Posted: 10 Aug 2020 21:26 - Edited by: darz5150
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I need to say on the record. I am not trying to fear monger, be a conspiracy theorist or in any way to deny the seriousness of what we all are dealing with.
Actually very much the opposite. I am simply presenting undeniable facts that I have dealt with. I have more that I might share in time.
I also want to thank the 3 people that offered their condolences for my families loss. Greatly appreciated for sure.
Stay safe everyone.

95XL883
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# Posted: 10 Aug 2020 23:45
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I wasn’t very clear in my post, Darz. I am so sorry for your loss. That document that is appalling. Totally heartless. Again, my deepest condolences on your loss.

It seems in some hospitals, a patient needs a very persistent advocate to really nag the hospital to take better care of a patient. What they did to your mom seems so wrong. I pray you find a path to peace with the situation. (I am being very vague as to specifics as specific actions should be your decision but I know what I would do.)

darz5150
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# Posted: 11 Aug 2020 00:07
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Just to change things up a bit. Regardless of the virus or whatever current events.
Think about signing up to be an organ donor.
My whole family has been signed up for decades.
It's amazing how much they can use to help others.
Everything from helping a burn victim, or making a blind person see.
I have paperwork with the descriptions of the many many people that were helped.
We are all in this together? That's your decision. Even tho' many of us may have parts that might be a little squeeky or worn out.
Keep in mind that they can use parts that many of haven't itched or even seen in years.....if ever!
Stay safe.

darz5150
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# Posted: 11 Aug 2020 00:52
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Quoting: 95XL883
# Posted: 10 Aug 2020 23:45
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I wasn’t very clear in my post, Darz. I am so sorry for your loss.

You were very clear. And I thank you. And I am not
ripping on anyone for not saying anything
We all can't be sorry for everything that happens to everyone.
It seems everything has turned into a bizarro world.
I/we played by the rules. It is what it is. I can't change it. You can't change it.
It just boggles me. How if I order something from amazon. I can track, every minute, every day, what's happening with my package.
I live in a cabin in the woods. If I kill a deer. I have to give accurate info. On when and where that deer lost its life.
If I higher someone to watch my dog. Then my dog gets hit by a car, and dies. I would reasonably expect someone to tell me, the date, time, exact cause of death. Etc.
Unfortunately, that's not the case with my mother.
It is, What it is.
As of yet. I haven't seen any links to any actual law that pertains to my situation. As well as many many others. It is what it is.
If I new then. What I know now. I would probably be locked up in jail. While they are releasing prisoners so they don't get covid. Probably a public safety call, even tho' me or my mom weren't positive for covid. Lol.
Thank you again, for your condolences.
To everyone that thinks we need more mandates, suggestions, regulations without the voice of those being suggested, mandated, and regulated to obey.
Be careful what you wish for.
Stay safe. Be True to what you know.

darz5150
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# Posted: 11 Aug 2020 00:56
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P.S.
If anybody needs masks. I have extra ones my mom can't use anymore.

KinAlberta
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# Posted: 16 Aug 2020 16:42 - Edited by: KinAlberta
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A friend sent me a pic of a poster with this caption:

Mask not what your country can do for you.

Mask what you can do for your country.


ICC
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# Posted: 16 Aug 2020 17:00
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darz5150
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# Posted: 19 Aug 2020 00:51
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Check out. Corona virus takes the suburbs on you tooooob.

KinAlberta
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# Posted: 12 Sep 2020 23:49 - Edited by: KinAlberta
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Good article.

America Is Trapped in a Pandemic Spiral - The Atlantic

“ “It’s like we only have attention for only one thing at a time”


https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/09/pandemic-intuition-nightmare-spira l-winter/616204/

ICC
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# Posted: 13 Sep 2020 09:42
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Yes. Good article. Lots of magical thinking going on in US

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