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Aklogcabin
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# Posted: 6 Oct 2021 09:01
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I paint the plywood floors to help protect them from the elements. Use whatever Oops paint I can get. Our son had purple floors until he got the flooring done.
If you mark out your intdrior wall layout on the floor it's handy to use spray on clear varathane to cover your layout lines. Especially if you're on a concrete slab.
Also, since you're heading this way ,red chalk for chalk lines. It stays and hard to paint over so ok for floors. Blue chalk is better for walls n such that will be painted.
Your doing great,n working in the weather will get easier.
I remember back when I first started out on a home construction crew back in the 70s. When it rained the job got covered in tarps n the crew went to the bar to play pool. Didn't work in the rain trying to keep things dry.
Your doing good so keep up the confidence, stay positive

Nate R
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# Posted: 6 Oct 2021 19:25
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Nice progress! It's hard work, for sure. My fingers and hands ached for a while after my initial chunk of build work last year.

I have to take some time to do laundry, re-supply, and rest my brain for a bit after several days, too.

Good luck with the next steps!

WILL1E
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# Posted: 7 Oct 2021 23:13
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Well, made it back up late this morning. Was foggy all day, then cleared up nicely, then rain was coming. Manged to get the loft joist in and some of the subfloor done up there. Wasn’t planning to do all the loft so I’m short 2 sheets, will have to finish it later. Figure the loft will make life a little easier setting the first couple sets of rafter assemblies.

Supposed to rain tomorrow again, so I went a bit overboard with a water shedding tarp system. This way I can work inside the cabin building rafter assemblies. Also decided to use the wall instead of the floor to save my back when building them up!
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WILL1E
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# Posted: 7 Oct 2021 23:18
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snobdds
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# Posted: 8 Oct 2021 00:42
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It's looking good. I love the framing stage of the build, so much visual progress to see.

If I was closer, I would help to dry it in...just for the fun of it.

Keep putting that next foot forward...

Brettny
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# Posted: 8 Oct 2021 10:31
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Quoting: Aklogcabin
paint the plywood floors to help protect them from the elements. Use whatever Oops paint I can get. Our son had purple floors until he got the flooring done

They "dry ply" aub floor hes useing has a wax coating to protect it from the elements for a specific amount of time. I would be more worried about the wall sheething.

gcrank1
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# Posted: 8 Oct 2021 11:09
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When tarping over Ive found I need at least twice as many supports as it initially looks like, and steeper pitch to run the water off rather than sag, puddle and fill.
Oh, says I, I'll just push the sag puddle up and it will all run out. It rarely works that way, sag puddles dont 'push'.

WILL1E
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# Posted: 10 Oct 2021 07:23
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Well, here I am about to start day 9 and needless to say I’m mentally and physically exhausted. I’ve got 4 more rafter assemblies to get up and then get them all squared up. After that it’s building the gable ends and the rafter tails. Then comes the dreaded sheathing of the roof and gable ends.
I’m considering spending money I don’t have and hiring someone to do the sheathing and weather barriers…steel is delayed until the 22nd. I’ve never hired anyone before so I’m not even sure what to look for. Would that fall under a framer or a roofer to do that type of work?
I don’t want to throw in towel but realistically I don’t think I can keep going so I need a plan B to get it dried in.
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Princelake
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# Posted: 10 Oct 2021 13:04
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Any good contractor would be busy trying to get things done before the weather gets worse. I’d be looking for a framer on the side to help you. Good luck!

gcrank1
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# Posted: 10 Oct 2021 20:02
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Any Amish in the area?

jsahara24
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# Posted: 11 Oct 2021 10:48
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Can you rent a lift instead of a contractor to help you? I am thinking you may have a hard time finding help without a significant delay...

Brettny
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# Posted: 11 Oct 2021 15:44
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Your about 80% there. Dont give up now. Renting the lift is a good idea. Any contractor is going to be busy until well after the snow flys.

I guess this is why there are so many half built camps forsale.

gcrank1
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# Posted: 11 Oct 2021 16:23
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Like so many things (projects), the hardest part is finishing up, especially when, for a number of reasons, we just want to be done.....
On our old cabin I had torn the long overdue '25yr' asphalt shingles off to re-roof and we had a very early winter. I was able to buy some very expensive 'wrap', said to be good for high winds and exposure for months, and get it on the last day as flurries came in.
It weathered through the winter just fine until we could get back at it in the spring. It was worth the cost.
Apologies to the authors for the paraphrase:
"The best layed plans of mice and men often turn to horse pucky"
And:
"Plan A is pretty much over once you start....."

snobdds
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# Posted: 11 Oct 2021 16:35
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You will never know until you try and find some help, don't assume everyone is booked up.

Some framers are probably sitting idle as most of the places are already dried in. It's the other trades now slammed with work.

A lift and a helper will help you tremendously.

WILL1E
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# Posted: 12 Oct 2021 12:41
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I’ve made calls and no luck, both for help, professionals and for a lift. And to make matters worse as I’m trying to sheath the gable ends I noticed one of the rafter assemblies is outta whack compared to the others. So far I can only see one side of it but it looks to stand proud half inch or so from a distance.

If there was towel to throw in or a tap out button, they’d be thrown or hit right now.

Tim_Ohio
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# Posted: 12 Oct 2021 12:51
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Where are you located? I've got a lot of vacation accrued. I might be willing to help. I'm in Ohio, though.

Tim

Tim_Ohio
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# Posted: 12 Oct 2021 12:52
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Anybody else out there want to meet up with Willie and help him get it under roof?

Tim
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jsahara24
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# Posted: 12 Oct 2021 13:22
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Google says 16 hours each way for me, don't think I can pull that off but another set of hands would certainly go a long way on that job....

I'd spread out your search for a lift, and focus on the roof and wait on the gable framing/sheathing...

And if you need a break the cabin isn't going to be ruined if it gets rained on for another couple weeks......Good luck and try to stay positive! This is supposed to be fun!

snobdds
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# Posted: 12 Oct 2021 14:14
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If I was closer, I would help.

NorthRick
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# Posted: 12 Oct 2021 14:49
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Take a deep breath.

If you are really worn out and getting frazzled, I'd strongly consider walking away from the project for a bit. Trying to work rushed while tired will lead to mistakes, sucking all the fun out of it, and worse, getting injured.

It will not be the end of the world if it snows before the roof goes on. Just wait for better weather, line up some help, shovel out the snow and then continue.
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WILL1E
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# Posted: 12 Oct 2021 21:47
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I got the gable ends sheathed and wrapped today.

Found a guy that’ll supposedly sheath and paper the roof for $1k on Monday. I don’t know that I’m in the position to be picky right now but is that even a decent price?
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Nate R
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# Posted: 12 Oct 2021 22:05
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When I think about sheathing my roof, and then the added difficulty of yours....yeah, I'd say that's about right. I mean, I'd gladly pay that if I were in your shoes.

gcrank1
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# Posted: 12 Oct 2021 23:27
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Figure 2 guys, the number of hours all in (include their drive time) to do it and divide the $1k by that.
Then ask yourself if you would work for that dollars per hour doing that job.

WILL1E
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# Posted: 14 Oct 2021 12:09
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Well i officially called it quits up there yesterday. Between the arthritis in my hands and my uneasiness about the heights i couldn't keep going. So i've got the professional guy coming on Monday to put the fascia boards on, sheathing and ice/water barrier & 30# felt. Per my neighbor he said the guy built one of the camps on our road, so he's known in the area.

Now i just gotta hope my rafter assemblies are good enough for him to work with.

Brettny
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# Posted: 14 Oct 2021 12:13
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$1k for labor would be over priced to me. A gambrel roof really isnt that complex it's just smaller pieces of roof that dont even need to line up all that great.

snobdds
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# Posted: 14 Oct 2021 13:50 - Edited by: snobdds
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Quoting: Brettny
$1k for labor would be over priced to me. A gambrel roof really isnt that complex it's just smaller pieces of roof that dont even need to line up all that great.


It's a bargain and a deal in my opinion...

You must consider the circumstances.

WILL1E
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# Posted: 14 Oct 2021 14:26
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Well i do know it's cheaper than the $2500 that the local Amish guy quoted me. Lifts were $200 per day, which i would have probably needed for at least 3 days not to mention I don't know how well if at all i would have been able to access 1 side of the cabin with all the trees.

snobdds
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# Posted: 14 Oct 2021 16:17
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you made the right call. Don't second guess it.

NorthRick
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# Posted: 15 Oct 2021 01:01
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I agree with snobdds. You'll get your roof on, get some rest, and will be able to move on.

WILL1E
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# Posted: 18 Oct 2021 10:07
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Well the framers are here sheathing the roof. Crazy how those guys dance around up there like it’s nothing. They’re using wall jacks…never seen those before, just the roof ones. Looks easier than scaffolding!

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